Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
    • What you have uploaded is a letter with daft empty threats from third-party paper tigers.  Just ignore it. What we need to see is the original invoice you received last October or November.
    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Default Notice - Is It Allowed


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 6150 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi Everyone,

 

About 18 months ago i took out an emergency home cover policy with royal and sun alliance. During the first year i tried to make a claim against the policy but sun alliance wriggled out of paying by something in the small print that i didnt read. Angry with what had happened i decided to cancel the policy, after many calls to them i was finally told that if i cancelled i would still have to pay the full year premium. So i decided to let it run the full 12 month course.

 

After about 6 months i noticed by internet banking that i still hadnt cancelled it, however it was now a couple of months past the first year. I tried to ring them several times to so i no longer wanted the policy but they just kept putting me on hold. I then decided to just cancel the direct debit.

 

I then received a letter off them to say the direct debit had been cancelled and i needed to reset it up or pay the full second year term. I ignored there letters but then got one saying a default notice had been issued against me.

 

My main concern is that when you take out an annual policy most financial institutions automatically just carry it on the following year unless you write to them to cancel it.

 

I believe this is wrong surely you should have to sign something to say you want the policy to carry on for another year. Does anybody think i stand a chance of getting this removed by stating this to them at the end of the day i took out an annual policy not a two year policy.

 

Many Thanks Damo

Link to post
Share on other sites

Do you still have the paperwork you originally recieved from them?

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well if you can read through the small print that you missed when you signed, you will be able to see the exact terms of the policy - without having to send them letters and wait for a rubbish reply.

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I also just found this here:

http://www.insurance.co.uk/ProductsNET/Home/Popups/infoHmeHomeEmergencyPolicyCurrent.pdf

Cancelling the policy

14. If you want to change your mind you may cancel this policy by giving us at least seven days notice in writing at the address shown on your schedule. If you do, you may be entitled to a refund of any premium you have paid for the rest of the current insurance period provided that no claim has been made during the current insurance period.

We may cancel this policy by giving you at least 14 days notice in writing at

 

 

your last known address. If we do, any premium you have paid us for the rest of the current insurance period will be returned to you.

 

Please remember this is not a maintenance contract and we will have the right to cancel if, in our opinion, the service is being abused.

 

Also this:

Insurance period

The period to which the insurance applies. This is 12 months from the start date and

also includes any further period for which you pay or agree to pay and for which we accept or agree to accept your premium.

I don't know if this refers to the exact policy you took out, but it should probably apply to any RaSA policies. JMO

 

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for that, I have found there terms and conditions and i think they have got me bang to rights. However the last bit that you posted seems interesting because at no time after the 12 months did i accept to carry the policy on. however in there terms it says i have 14 days from renewal date to cancel the policy in writing which i didn't do. If what you have found below is for all RaSa policies it makes a mockery of there terms and conditions.

 

Thanks again

Insurance period

The period to which the insurance applies. This is 12 months from the start date and

also includes any further period for which

you pay or agree to pay and for which we accept or agree to accept your premium.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well I don't know if it IS for all policies, but it was under the heading General Conditions, or something like that, so I assume that they'll just put it into all their policies. If it doesn't have that wording in your terms though, I think they might be right. Alhough, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to cancel anytime you wanted really.

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Monopoly

 

I have found it, stated in my policy book under insurance period is exactly what you have written.

 

The period to which the insurance applies. This is 12 months from the start date and

also includes any further period for which

you pay or agree to pay and for which we accept or agree to accept your premium.

 

Do you think i might now have a case of getting it removed as i didnt agree to carry on paying thats why i cancelled the direct debit.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe, but I don't really know much about insurance. I think you should probably write a letter to their complaints department, stating how many times you've called, what's been said to you, and the fact that you never agreed to renew the policy in the first place. Quote the relevant sections from their T&C's.

By law, the final response from them has to be given in 8 weeks.

 

Depending on what you get back from them, I would probably try to reclaim any payments you made after the 12 months was up, and get the default removed.

 

I doubt it will be a quick or easy process :rolleyes:

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

Link to post
Share on other sites

No problem. Let us know how you get on

 

Please Click My Scales If I've Helped!

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest strangewayofsavin

I would go to Citizens advice, you may have a case for your premiums returned, due to the fact, that whilst trying to claim, the claim was refused, therefore, if the policy does not include what you require, in contract law you can give 1 months notice to quit, dispite what is written, also the fact that most insurance policy contract agreements are whats known as standard form contracts. Standard form contracts are cheaper to produce, and are identical to each other apart from the personal details. Standard form contracts are well known to put the company using them in a position of dominance in the partnership/agreement, therefore they are subject to a termination period. Standard form contracts are usually used in mobile phone contracts, Employment contracts etc, and if challenged by taking to court, usually settle out of court. I can only quote what I know, and have not read your contract, go to CAB and see what they say.

good luck

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...