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    • Hmm yes I see your point about proof of postage but nonetheless... "A Notice to Keeper can be served by ordinary post and the Protection of Freedoms Act requires that the Notice, to be valid,  must be delivered either (Where a notice to driver (parking ticket) has been served) Not earlier than 28 days after, nor more than 56 days after, the service of that notice to driver; or (Where no notice to driver has been served (e.g ANPR is used)) Not later than 14 days after the vehicle was parked A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales." My question there is really what might constitute proof? Since you say the issue of delivery is a common one I suppose that no satisfactory answer has been established or you would probably have told me.
    • I would stand your ground and go for the interest. Even if the interest is not awarded you will get the judgement and the worst that might happen is that you won't get your claim fee.  However, it is almost inevitable that you will get the interest.  It is correct that it is at the discretion of the judge but the discretion is almost always exercised in favour of the claimant in these cases.  I think you should stand your ground and don't give even the slightest penny away Another judgement against them on this issue would be very bad for them and they would be really stupid to risk it but if they did, it would cost them far more than the interest they are trying to save which they will most likely have to pay anyway
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    • Your concern regarding the 14 days delivery is a common one. Not been on the forum that long, but I don't think the following thought has ever been challenged. My view is that they should have proof of when it was posted, not when they "issued", or printed it. Of course, they would never show any proof of postage, unless it went to court. Private parking companies are simply after money, and will just keep sending ever more threatening letters to intimidate you into paying up. It's not been mentioned yet, but DO NOT APPEAL! You could inadvertently give up useful legal protection and they will refuse any appeal, because they're just after the cash...  
    • The sign says "Parking conditions apply 24/7". Mind you, that's after a huge wall of text. The whole thing is massively confusing.  Goodness knows what you're meant to do if you spend only a fiver in Iceland or you stay a few minutes over the hour there.
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MCOL transferred my case to Wigan County Court about 6 weeks ago now. I phoned the court up a few weeks ago to check everything was ok, and the woman said all I can do is wait. Is this right? Does it take quite a while. I'm not bothered how long it takes, just don't want things to go wrong. I haven't been asked to fill out an allocation Q (yet), this line was crossed out in the letter I received.

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Claire

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Hi Claire

 

Welcome to 'Beat the Banker'.

 

Yes, the court is correct all you can do is wait for them to contact you. The AQ is now commonly being dispensed with at the MCOL stage to try and speed things up. The truth is the court system is swamped with these people claiming against the banks. I myself have been waiting for a date since my case was transferred on May 9th.

 

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Cg.......don't count on the AQ beind dispensed with. My letter had the line about the AQ crossed out but my local court decided they still wanted one....it took about four weeks before they sent it out to me.

 

Some courts are dispensing with them as Simon rightly said.......but not all.

 

It isn't a quick process claiming charges back...but you will get there! My claim took 7 months and I just got full settlement two days ago.

 

Keep reading threads....learn as much as you can.

 

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Hi Claire,

I have a case against A+L at Wigan County Court and they sent me an Allocation Questionaire. They are pretty easy to fill out and just add the draft order for directions to it. Just awaiting to hear from them now.

Good luck with your claim.

 

Joe

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Hi Joe,

 

Sorry I don't know what you mean about adding the draft order? How long was it until they sent you the AQ? Let me know how you get on - good luck

 

Claire

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Hi Claire,

 

The Allocation Questionnaire arrived a couple of days after A&L filed a defence. The Draft Order i mentioned , would if granted by the district judge speed up the process hopefully. There is a link here.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/53570-new-strategy-allocation-questionnaires.html

 

Joe

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Hi Claire,

Give the court a ring to see if Abbey have filed a defence. If they haven't then you should be able to file for judgment by default.

Hope this helps.

 

Joe

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Hi Joe,

 

A defence was filed before it was transferred. I phoned Wigan CC up today, and the lady said I should hear from them within the next couple of weeks or so. She said that it is with the judge, and they are currently going through about 150 a day. So hopefully I should hear soon. She did say that from her expereince working there, the banks never turn up. Once they get a court date they are on a count down, and usually pay in the 11th hour.

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Ok, now I'm in a state of panic. I received "General Form of Judgement or Order" from Wigan County Court today. Please could somebody help me with this. Do I need to do anything? The content is:

Upon Consideration of the Court Papers IT IS ORDERED THAT

1. The claim is allocated to the small claims track.

2. By 4pm on 9th August 2007 the claimant shall file and serve a schedule setting out each charge the claimant claims as part of this claim.

3. By 23rd August 2007 the defendant file and serve a counter-schedule setting out which charges or amounts are admitted or denied and the reasons for any such denial.

4. The claim shall be listed for a preliminary hearing on the following date to consider how the claim should be conducted.

 

4th Sept etc

 

Estimated length of hearing 10 minutes.

 

There is more content, but the main part of the letter is above.

 

Do I need to do anything?

 

Please help, I'm shaking as it doesn't make much sense to me

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please? can anyone help? I have phoned the court, and even the lady I spoke to couldn't decipher the letter. reading it, I think they just need my spreadsheet with the charges. There is no mention of a court bundle. I have just looked at the basic court bundle on here, and don't understand that either :confused:

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Claire..... your schedule is a list (preadsheet) detailing all the charges tou are claiming with the corresponding reference, eg: Overdraft Limit Exceeded - £35 (and the date it was taken from your account).

 

Abbey have to submit their response by their set date or they have failed to comply to a Court Order and consequently are likely to have their Defence struck out! Likewise you will have your Claim struck out if you fail to submit your side before the set date!

 

Hope thats clearer?

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I handposted a breakdown of the Schedule of Charges through the court letter bx last night (deducting the £718) Abbey have paid me (and attached a copy of their letter). I will ring the Court on Tuesday to make sure they got it. Hope this was the right thing.

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I posted my Schedule of Charges through the letterbox of the court on Saturday (sent a copy to Abbey). I phoned the Court on Tues to check they had it, and they said yes, and they were happy. I asked them if I need to prepare anything else i.e a court bundle, and they said no. Has anybody else known this? My preliminary hearing is on 4th Sept

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I posted my Schedule of Charges through the letterbox of the court on Saturday (sent a copy to Abbey). I phoned the Court on Tues to check they had it, and they said yes, and they were happy. I asked them if I need to prepare anything else i.e a court bundle, and they said no. Has anybody else known this? My preliminary hearing is on 4th Sept via the small claims route

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Hi Joe,

 

I called them early last week, and they didn't say it was stayed. They did say some of the newer cases would be stayed, and the older ones were going through. Not sure which mine falls into.

 

Claire

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I'm a bit worried about not sending Abbey a letter stating I do not accept the small payment they put into my account as full and final. I phoned MCOL the day is happened, and asked the lady if I need to write to or contact Abbey, and she said no, just continue with the claim as it is. My hearing is on Tuesday. Could this jeopardise my case?

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Hi, if there was nothing in the letter that they sent you stating that unless they hear from you within a certain amount of time they will consider the claim settled, then dont worry about it, but I would send then a quick letter saying that you will accept this as a partial settlement only and will persue them for the rest.

Lula

 

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