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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Well hopefully not too much of a fight but we'll see I guess. As of today, my credit score is apparently no longer sufficient for them to renew my overdraft facility. They say they want 250 quid back within two weeks. I say, let's have a look back at six years of bank charges then :mad:

 

Have finally got all my statements filed and ordered, and will start the process on Monday, I think I have about 1200 quid's worth - will keep everyone up to date here.

 

I've got a parachute account almost opened, as I understand I'll get my two accounts closed by going through with this.

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Hello mattbee!

..I've got a parachute account almost opened, as I understand I'll get my two accounts closed by going through with this.
Very recently, Nationwide have been recalling any O/D that a Claimant has got + getting their 'In-House' Debt Collection Dept. to put duress on the Claimant by threatening Court Action, DEFAULT NOTICES etc etc if the Claimants 'debt' to Nationwide isn't paid asap.

They 'flag' the Claimants Flexaccount, block Online access to it + insist on the Claimant returning their Debit Card + Cheque Book to their local Branch.

It has been a couple of months since Nationwide have actually 'Closed' a Claimant's Flexaccount.

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how on earth do you deal with all that? ive startd the process(mon11th prelim sent) but im having great diff getting another bank acc,tsb declined me and im waiting to hear from co-op(applied 1 week ago) as to wether they'l accept me,my credit rating is poor coz of defaults and im seriously worried that n/wide will just pull the plug and ill be left with no account.im still determined yo get my charges back(£1600)but am also concerned about the lack of banking facilities,im on this site reading as much as i can so hopefully that will help.

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Hello chrisk7!

 

DON'T PANIC!

 

Have a look at the following links...

http://www.checkmyfile.com/content/downloads/2006%20Banking%20and%20Credit%20Card%20Survey.pdf

 

Bank Accounts

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/13832-do-you-need-parachute.html

 

Please remember that a Bank will leave a footprint on your Credit Report when U apply for a Current Account with it, whether your application is successful of not.

 

Too many application footprints (...within a 6 month period) will indicate to the next Bank that U apply to, that U are a credit risk.

This will make it even more unlikely that a future application, with a different Bank, will be successful.

 

It is much better to research which Bank is likely to accept U BEFORE U make any inappropriate applications for the type of Current Accounts which might be beyond your 'Basic' type one.

 

FWIW...

I know someone who obtained a Basic Current Account from the CO-OP, who had 17 Defaults on their Credit Report + who had had several addresses over the past few years.

They were just required to provde ID + a couple of Utility Bills etc.

The Account had Online Banking, a Cash Card + DD/SO capabilities.

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HI MTM,thanks for the advice,Ive read those links thats why i applied for the co-op but after a week im finding it hard not to panic,i phoned them y/day and they said my app was still in process,dont kno wether thats good or bad!!ive applied for my credit file(!)but if i get declined by the co-op am not sure what the freakin hell ill do,PANIC coz thats one thing im really good at!:)

chris

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now your just bein facetious!!!!!(sp)ive had a couple of wines what do you xpect with all the stress im under?! and like i said before. . . . . . your bloody everywhere on this site!!!!! it should be renamed. :p:lol:

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Well to bring the thread back on topic I've spent a wild Saturday night in calculating what's due from all my old statements - £930 without interest, or £1107.18 with the 8% statutory. I'm not too worried about getting a parachute account with Barclays as my company banks with them and we keep a decent float in there most of the time. Letter will go off on Monday, will let everyone know how it goes.

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Well to bring the thread back on topic...£930 without interest, or £1107.18 with the 8% statutory... Letter will go off on Monday.
Sorry for the Hi-jack...:oops:

...'Twas the 'Creme de Old Spice' chasers!...lol...:D

 

 

Have U considered Claiming CONTRACTUAL INTEREST instead of the s69 Statutory Interest???

...Cos it's advisable to mention it at the Preliminary Letter stage if U are!

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how on earth do you deal with all that? ive startd the process(mon11th prelim sent) but im having great diff getting another bank acc,tsb declined me and im waiting to hear from co-op(applied 1 week ago) as to wether they'l accept me,my credit rating is poor coz of defaults and im seriously worried that n/wide will just pull the plug and ill be left with no account.im still determined yo get my charges back(£1600)but am also concerned about the lack of banking facilities,im on this site reading as much as i can so hopefully that will help.

 

I'm sure that my credit rating was sub-zero when I needed to change bank accounts in a hurry - I blundered into the local HSBC feeling terrified of getting turned down, and found out that they do a 'basic' account that runs purely on a hole-in-the-wall basis without access to cheque book/card or overdraft but you can still have DDs and SOs going out of it.

 

They went through the application process with me and gave me an answer on the spot and to be honest with you it's been a life saver for me - I haven't been overdrawn by a single penny for over 2 years now. It's been a rough and bumpy ride back for me but I think there's finally light at the end of the tunnel - I just have to hope it's not an express train heading my way!

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I too have a terrible credit rating due to 5 defaults.

 

I tried to open an account with the co-op , but was declined.

 

I then tried the yorkshire bank , who accepted me and I also was given a meastro debit card. Was told that if I kept my account in line for next 6 months then there was a good chance that my account would be upgraded , so i could have cheque book facility aswell.

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Well Nationwide tried to call me this evening while I was out walking the dog - I'm prepared to make a response however they like, but have any other Nationwide (ex) members had similar calls, so I know what to expect?

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hi matbee,

a friend of mine has had the same thing happen,the bank said it was a "customer service" call to see if they could resolve rhe matter sooner and easier than going to court,my friend said she didnt want to discuss it,and told them to put anything they wanted to say in writing,that way there is at least documentation to show anything that is offered or "threatened"ie:acc closures etc.btw how did you go on opening another bank acc?any luck/

chris

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how on earth do you deal with all that? ive startd the process(mon11th prelim sent) but im having great diff getting another bank acc,tsb declined me and im waiting to hear from co-op(applied 1 week ago) as to wether they'l accept me,my credit rating is poor coz of defaults and im seriously worried that n/wide will just pull the plug and ill be left with no account.im still determined yo get my charges back(£1600)but am also concerned about the lack of banking facilities,im on this site reading as much as i can so hopefully that will help.

I have a pretty poor credit rating but have recently opened an account with the natwest, its a basic account but i have a debit card, dd and s/o.

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Okay so at the end of last week I received a boilerplate reply from Nationwide explaining that I'd agreed to the charges when I'd signed the Flexaccount terms & conditions.

 

I wrote back on Tuesday (so they should have this today):

 

Thank you for your reply earlier this week.

I am naturally disappointed that Nationwide chooses not to refund its members charges that are imposed as a result of illegal penalty clauses in its contracts. Such clauses are made illegal under the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999. I am therefore left with no choice but to advise you that I will be lodging a claim for these charges in my local small claims court on 11th July, which will include further interest and court fees.

I am aware from other ex-members that Nationwide sometimes chooses to close accounts of members who insist on claiming back such illegal fees. While I appreciate Nationwide has not suggested anything of the sort at this stage, please be aware that I am fully prepared to take such a retaliatory account closure to the Financial Ombudsmen Service who recently imposed fines and compensation against the Alliance and Leicester for breaching its obligations under the Banking Code. I do not wish to go to the small claims court, or to the FOS, and would ask that the society considers that, in view of the many refunds it has made to other members, and the potential breach of its obligations to the FOS in relation to other members, that it quickly refunds my fees.

I look forward to your prompt response.

 

From others' experiences it looks like I will have to spend money going to court, but maybe I can avoid my account being closed, or even short-cut their normal response with a little preliminary sabre rattling.

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I've had a bad credit rating for years but managed to open an account with alliance & leicester with a cheque book & debit card. I done it all online and it only took about a week. This was the first thing I did before starting the whole process of reclaiming.

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Well they're well overdue responding - I just couldn't justify blowing £120 on the filing fee until pay day. So now it's come round and I'll file tomorrow - I heard about the test case and the possibility that my local court will defer, but hey ho... the principle still stands, I'll happily let them rack up more interest if it takes six months longer than expeced.

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how on earth do you deal with all that? ive startd the process(mon11th prelim sent) but im having great diff getting another bank acc,tsb declined me and im waiting to hear from co-op(applied 1 week ago) as to wether they'l accept me,my credit rating is poor coz of defaults and im seriously worried that n/wide will just pull the plug and ill be left with no account.im still determined yo get my charges back(£1600)but am also concerned about the lack of banking facilities,im on this site reading as much as i can so hopefully that will help.

 

 

Although the account isn't open yet, I have "been accepted in principal" for a Step (basic) account with Natwest, you can pay DD, SO, internet/telephone banking, Solo/Maestro card. The returned DD charge is extortionate at 38 quid, but then they all are when we know it costs about 2! Anyway, might be worth giving them a go.

I was also accepted for HSBC, but just had to go into a branch with the documents and my credit rating is low, so they may be worth a try too. Basically if you aren't interested in credit facilities, you should have a chance with one or two. Might be worth going into one of the banks and making an appointment with the manager and tell him the situation, I'm sure they could work something out by giving you a risk-free account and they gain a customer that they can charge the ass off whenever they miss a DD. See, they benefit too, for the moment. ;)

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I finally filed last Monday and yesterday received a letter from Nationwide concerning the OFT test case. They are applying to stay the case, and York are apparently staying most cases as a matter of policy. So I will start looking into objecting to the stay (because I'm still being fined illegally, because I'm now £120 down), and seeing if we can proceed as before.

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Well it's now 1st of September. My filing notice from the court say that Nationwide had until 31st to reply, and I've not heard anything yet (though I suppose the court might have done). So, if I don't hear anything on Monday morning, am I in a position to file for judgement?

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