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    • Hmm yes I see your point about proof of postage but nonetheless... "A Notice to Keeper can be served by ordinary post and the Protection of Freedoms Act requires that the Notice, to be valid,  must be delivered either (Where a notice to driver (parking ticket) has been served) Not earlier than 28 days after, nor more than 56 days after, the service of that notice to driver; or (Where no notice to driver has been served (e.g ANPR is used)) Not later than 14 days after the vehicle was parked A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales." My question there is really what might constitute proof? Since you say the issue of delivery is a common one I suppose that no satisfactory answer has been established or you would probably have told me.
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As a matter of interest, did you ask the court for wasted costs?

 

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Great work Julie! Good to know your saga is over.

 

As Steven said, go for it again - these 'bankers' have got to learn!

 

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Yep

 

Start from prelim letter but point out that you have already whopped them in court once so why don't they just roll over and pay up straight away (you might want to word it more 'professionally' than that though)

 

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SORRY BUT WHATS THE PRELIM LETTER

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THat's the first letter you sent asking for your money back. I presume you won't need an SAR as you will have all the relevant statements.

 

What about wasted costs for this claim?

 

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Excellent news! Well done Julie!:D

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C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !

Roll on round 2, and you could have gone for wasted costs as I did. I was/am exempt from court fees, but charged 25hrs@£9.25 as you are "Litigation in person" as well as other misc costs.

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could I ask which court this was please?

 

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HI CRUSHER

 

THE COURT WAS BRADFORD (WEST YORKSHIRE).

IM GOING TO DO IT ALL AGAIN FOR THE CHARGES I DIDNT CLAIM FOR

 

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Hi Anybody

 

Why Is Nothing Simple For Me.

I Won My Court Case On The 21 June, The Bank Was Ordered To Pay Me Back The Charges By 5 July today and Nothing Came In The Post Today, What Do I Do Now? anybody Help

 

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Have you checked you bank acount to see if theya have just credited it with the money?

 

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IM SORRY ABOUT THIS BUT JUST RUNG THE BANK AND NOTHING HAS GONE TO THAT ACCOUNT, WOULD THIS HAPPEN EVEN IF THE BANK HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO PAY ME

 

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Phone cobbetts and explain you haven't received payment even though the court ordered them to pay you by the 5th July. Tell them this is non-compliance with the court order, etc., and let us know what they say. Cheeky beggars!

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Good Morning

Sorry About This But I Rang The Courts And They Told Me To Ring The Bank Which I Did They Have Told Me To Fax The Judgement Order To Them With Covering Letter. The Order Clearly Says To Pay Myself And Nothing About Paying It Against My Debt. Do You Think I Should Still Do This Because I Can Do An Enforcement Order Now

 

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It's worth following the court's advice and faxing the judgement order with a covering letter - making it clear that you want a cheque payment. If you're able to do an enforcement order though - I think that has to be your call. Good luck - hope you get a positive response one way or the other today x :)

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Hi Julie

 

I would fax the stuff to the bank as they requested but add a note saying that the court ordered them to pay by 5 July and that if you don't receive a cheque within 7 days you will apply for an enforcemnet order. Emphasise that paying the money into your account is not acceptable, you ant a cheque.

 

THat might be quicker in the end as an enforcement order takes some time to process, serve, etc.

 

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Thanks Guys

 

You Are Giving Me So Much Strenth To Follow This Through, Dont Know What I Would Do Without You All. Anyway Fax Has Gone To Bank, Going To Ring Lunch Time To See If They Have Received It

 

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Hi, I am at the preparing for ourt stage and very nervous and getting quite scared going for £4854 in charges and about £1150 in interst etc, you case is very heartening and reassuring. I will hang in, as spoke to bank today and not budging on offer.

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Yes, you hang in there! We're right behind you. It would be best if you started your own thread so that peeps can help you better.

 

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