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    • I have had a secondary thought.  I borrowed £s from a completely separate entity 6y ago. It was personal and unsecured. I was going to repay upon sale of the property. But then repo and I couldn't.  Eventually they applied and got a charging order on the property.  Their lawyers wrote that if I didn't repay they may apply for an order for sale.  I'm not in control of the sale.  The lender won't agree to an order for sale.  The judge won't expedite it/ extract from trial.  Someone here on cag may or may not suggest I can apply for an order v the receiver?  But could I alternatively ask this separate entity with a c.o to carry out their threat and actually make an application to court for an order for sale v the receiver instead?
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    • Not Evris offer, the court offers mediation service.   All claims proceed to hearing if mediation fails /not happen.   Why do you not wish to attend in person to stand your claim ?     Absolutely you must comply with the courts directions or your claim risks being struck out. Preparation for a hearing should happen irrespective of mediation.   https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/460613-suing-a-parcel-delivery-company-when-you-dont-have-a-direct-contract-with-them-–-third-party-rights-copy-of-judgment-available/#comment-5255007   Andy  
    • LPA.  (I'm fighting insolvency due to all the stuff that he and lender have done).  He appointed estate agents - (changed several times). Disclosure shows he was originally appointed for a specific reason (3m after repo) : using his powers as acting for leaseholder to serve notice on freeholders (to grab fh).  There was interest from 3 potential buyers. He chose one whose offer depended on a positive result of the notice.  Disc also shows he'd taken counsel advice - which was 'he'd fail'.  He'd simultaneously asked to resign as his job (of serving notice) was done and he'd found a buyer.  Lender asked him to stay on to assign notice to the buyer.  Notice failed, buyer didn't buy.  So receiver stayed.  There was 1 buyer who wanted to proceed w/o fh but receiver/ lender wasted 1y trying to get rid of them!  Disc shows why. But I didn't know why at the time. In later months Lender voiced getting rid of receiver. Various reasons - including cost.  But there's a contradiction/ irony: as I've seen an email (of 4y ago) which shows the receiver telling lender not to incur significant costs and to minimize receiver costs.    Yet lender then asked him to serve another notice - again counsel advice indicated 'he'd fail'.  And he did fail.  But wasted 3y trying and incurred huge legal costs - lender trying to pass on to me. Lender interfered - said wanted to do works.  Receiver should have said no.  But disc. shows he agreed to step aside to let them do the works - on proviso lender would discuss potential costs first (they didn't), works wouldn't take long (took 15m), and lender would hold interest (they didn't) (this last point is crucial for me now - as I need to know if I can argue that all interest beyond this point shouldnt be allowed?)   I need to check receiver witness statement in litigation with freeholders to see exactly what he said about 'his position'. But I remember it being along the lines of - 'if the works increased the value of the property he didn't have a problem'.  Lender/ receiver real problems started at this point. The cost of works and 4y passage of time has meant there is no real increase in value. Lender (or receiver) didn't get any permissions (statutory or fh) (and didn't tell me) and just bulldozed the property to an empty shell.  The freeholders served notice on me as leaseholder for breach of covenants (strict no alterations).  The Lender stepped in (acting for me) to issue notice for relief of forfeiture - not the receiver.  That wasted 2y of litigation (3y if inc the works) and incurred huge costs (both sides).  Lender's aim was to do the works that every potential buyer balked at due to the lease restrictions.  Lender and receiver knew couldn't do works w/o fh permission. Lender did them anyway; receiver allowed.  Receiver remained appointed.  I'm arguing lender interfered in receiver duties.  Receiver should have just sold property 4-5y ago w/o allowing any works.  Almost 3y since works finished the property remains unsold (>5y from repo). The property looks brand new - but it was great before.  The lender spent a ton of money - hoping that would facilitate a quick sale.  But the money they spent and the years they have wasted has meant they had to increase sale price.  It's now completely overpriced.  And - of course - the same issues that put buyers off (before works) still exist.   The receiver has tried for 2y to assert the works increased value. But he is relying on agents estimates - which have proved highly speculative. (Usual trick of an agent to give a high value to get the business - and then tell seller to reduce when no-one buys.). And of course lender continues to accrue interest (despite 4y ago receiver saying pause interest). Lender tried to persuade receiver to use specific agent. Disc shows this agent was best friends with the lender's main investor in the property.  Before works this agent had valued it low.  After works this agent suggested a value 70% higher!  The lender persuaded receiver to sack one agent and instead use this agent.  No offers. (Price way too high).   Research has uncovered that this main investor has since died.  I guess his investment is part of probate? And his family want it back?    Disc shows the sacked agent had actually received a high offer 1y ago.  Receiver rejected it.  (thus I don't know if the buyer would have ever proceeded). He was relying on the high speculative valuation the agents had given him to pitch for the business. The agents were in a catch-22.  The receiver sacked them. Disc shows there has been 0 interest ever since (inc via new agent requested by lender). I don't think lender or receiver want all this to come out in public domain via a trial.  It will ruin their reputations. If I can't get an order for sale with lender - can I apply separately against receiver?
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reading through some threads seems like some judges are making there decision fineite, even after using the appeal letter and forms.they are taking our money up (to to 65 buks which we cant claim back.) and still doing nothing for us.its enough to drive you up the wall,what is the world comming to,the justice system is letting us down, :evil: .................................srry rant over..:D

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Hiya Blondy, Have you chilled out now? Sit back in the sun, tall glass full of scrumpy...freshly squeezed by southern belles...

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i do feel a bit sad,but thats because the judges are losing their bottle and falling in line with the whims of the banks.helping the banks drag it out longer than is realy needed.then when peeps appeal their wimpy decision they take the 65 quid and say sod off! this aint fair.............we are in the system let it carry on dont stop us now ............how fed up would the judges be feeling if they were in our shoes?:?

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:( still feel bad...................struggling to scrape up 65 quid for this appeal.i hope i can do it by friday or all my work will have been for nuthing.even if i manage to get the money and pay it i could still get a negative from the court....................so im in two minds as to carry on or not.frustrating !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-x
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I had a bad stage a couple of weeks ago...wondering if its all been a waste, but we've gotta stay positive and think of our A&L FF beach party !!! XX !!

If you dont want to appeal you could stick it out till the test case?

Hope ya feel better hunny xx

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;) ok im looking for a form to fill out to apply for the stay to be removed.it starts with an "n"....................then some numbers.im loosing my will to search stuff and my head hurts.i have written my letter and attached an annexe 2 with 764 cases allready settled by various banks.i know in the morning i will have trouble letting go of my dosh but i gotta do it.

 

can i down load the form and fill it out tonight as i wont get long off work to do this in the morning................. help me............ im melting......:cool:

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:D thanx jen,

 

its a bad week,had my lawn laid thinking the sun was commin out for the kids and ...nope its wet weather programe.going to the sea side 1st week in sept so i have at least 1 good thing to look forwards to.

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I know how it is...my lot have been soooo bored, littlest is stuck in the house while the bigguns go swimming.

My hols 2nd week sept...can't wait...xxx

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:) ok had a better day today.went to my local court to do the bizz on the stay and hey presto............the lady tells me " theres no charge for that sir". ........????????????:confused: i ask why is there no charge?.she replys "because the judge made the decision about the stay of his own accord , it was not applied for so its free".....ah a freeby from the justice system is it true or is it even real.pinched myself and asked her to chek again plz......."no im right sir its free" so i came home quik
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see my post in a minute - think the judge is going to consider my appeal against the stay

 

jan

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yeah gave myself a good kik in the pants and sorted it out late last night.i used the letter template from cag and threw in the 764 cases that have been settled by numurous banks, then highlighted the a & l settlements.:cool:

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:???: no news from me today.

 

 

 

 

but i thought i would have a go at the mortgage reclamation.i would like a real lot of advice because it was a complicated deal with the change of lenders and then my ex wife was repoed.a fourty two grand house in n. ireland sold for sixty two grand, and the bank took the whole 20 grand in fees.the house was then sold three years later (and this is the gutta) for 150k.

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There are several other cases like yours in the forums - try looking for posts by "tideturner."

 

I think the first step would be to get a statement of how exactly the £20,000 charges was made up? Unfortunately even in cases of voluntary possession it was normally still the case that interest was accumulating on the debt - and if no payments are being made you can understand the accumulating interest on the interest etc mount up very quickly.

 

there used to be set proceedures in the UK for valuing and marketing a possesion case. for example there was a rule about the minimum amount of valuations - by INDEPENDENT estate agents (some BS and agents had hidden connections) and the house had to be marketed for a certain amount of time with more than one agent before seling by auction.

 

In other words although the house was taken into ownership by the BS there was still a duty of care to the owner to make sure a fair price was achieved. However you have to remember that if a BS takes a long time to sell a property the interest is still accumulating which may wipe out the increased SP that is reached.

 

I am speaking from experience as I was in charge of possesions for the Halifax - but over 20 years ago- when I can sssure you that our sole intention was to avoid possession at all costs - our aim was to help the borrower if at all possible ( how things have changed:| )

 

If you feel the price was really not a true market value at the time then I would suggest looking to see if there were any hidden links between the BS and the estate agent who sold the property.

 

Best of luck

 

Jan:)

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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thanx jan.

 

 

 

the 20k was eaten up with clean and clear, sols fees, insurance something or other? i still have a list somewhere im sure.but i have just moved home so im struggling to track them down at the min.

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