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hi,

everything seems to have been going along nearly as planned, up until now!

 

i recieved a letter today from gloucester county court saying that the judge has ordered a stay,

 

the letter says,

 

"IT IS ORDERED THAT

 

1. the action be stayed until 16 July 2007 or until further order: the stay will also afford the parties an opportunity to try and settle the matter without a court hearing.

 

liberty to apply to remove/extend the stay

 

file be referred back to the district judge by 18 July 2007

 

this order was made on the District Judge's own initiative pursuant to CPR Part 23.8. if you object to the terms of the order you must make an application to the court to have it set aside, varied or stayed within 7 days of recieving pursuant to CPR Part 23.10*

 

*this means that if a party is not happy with this order and wishes to object to it, then a party merely has to write a letter to the court within seven days of the date of the reciept of this order specifying the objection and stating the grounds for it; no fee is payable for doing this. the file will then be referred to the district judge."

 

 

so, is this normal?

and what is my next course of action???

 

thank you

jamie

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Hi Baron - I too am with the Glouc CC and got exactly the same thing a week or so ago. There is a template letter 'somewhere' - sorry not clever enough to link it or find it - to object to the stay. Ring the bank first to see if they will settle, take notes of names and times. I'm doing this for my son, he rang and spoke to a P who said he couldn't settle now because of backlogs with accountant (!) and actually advised him to object to the stay. This letter had to be back within 7 days. so see if the bank will settle - perhaps someone else can link yout to the stay letter - you will need to modify a little to suit your circumstances. hope this helps

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ok, i think i may have found the draft letter you refer to stagey

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/16950-stay-here-application-grounds.html

 

i guess it needs a fair bit of modification to suit?

this is something i`m not too great at and i`m also terrrified of screwing something up at this late stage!! :0(

 

is there a letter anywhere that would be "more suitable" for me?

 

thanks

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This is OK - it's not the one I used (there are other help sites) I had to amend the one I used for the amount/dates that sort of thing - also it said something about obtaining bank statements - which we didn't do as my son already had them. So it's not too difficult. Take copies, send to the bank as well, but try ringing them first (you never know!) I won't be on line now for about a week - if you need more help try a moderator/admin - If I was a little more whizzy with this I'd try and link the help I had to you - good luck.

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