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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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When I acknowledge the claim, I'm not sure whether to defend or counterclaim.

 

Ideally, I need more time for the CCA to expire and counterclaim for damages but that seems like too much hard work as I've got bigger and more exciting fish to fry at the moment.

 

My objective is just to get the claim thrown out.

 

Any ideas on how to proceed with this one as I need to acknowledge in about 10 days?

 

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Hi All, Here's my intended 3 part defence:

1. I do not acknowledge the debt.

2. The claimant has failed to supply a copy of an executed agreement as requested by the defendant in accordance with the Consumer Credit Act 1974. The defendant made a request for copies of agreements and paid the statutory £1 fee for both alleged debts. The claimant received the request on the XXXXX 2007 by recorded delivery and has failed to comply. The debt is unenforceable and it is the defendants’ request that the claim is struck out.

3. The claimant states the alleged debts were purchased from XXX and XXX. The claimant has failed to provide a notice of assignment for the alleged debts. The debt is unenforceable and it is the defendants’ request that the claim is struck out.

What do you think?

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hi 1970

 

Providing you have acknowledged claim within 14 days as suggested earlier then you have 28 days from date of service to file your defence. I would simply file on day 27 asking for documentation as per tomterm8's post with leave to enter further defence if they produce documents. I think then would be a better time to introduce unlawful charges argument in full as you don't know yet if agreement etc.(if produced) will comply with CCA 1974. Some judges like it kept simple - one stage at a time

 

If incorrect or no documents produced you could then apply for claim to be struck out on that basis alone. Be aware that some judges might decide that an agreement exists even if docs incorrect so have a good "unlawful charges" defence in your second pleadings

 

good luck and keep us updated

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Hi Tomterm8,

 

Many thanks for the wording. Do I use it in my defence within 28 days or do I save for when I go to court?

 

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Ok, update.

 

Had the following letter from Cabot (Europe) as a result of my S.A.R - (Subject Access Request)'s and CCA's for both accounts. Here's the text: (my comments in red)

 

Dear 1970,

 

Cabot References xxxxxxx and xxxxxxx

 

Yours letters of xx may 07 have been forwarded to me from our solicitors hodsons in order to respond. Firstly, please accept my apologies in replying.

 

I have requested copies of the agreements from the creditors xyz and xyz, as a matter of urgency and shall send such copies as soon as we receive the same. However, please be advised Cabot Financial Europe Limited (Cabot") has no obligation under section 77, 78 or 79 of the consumer credit act 1974 to supply you with copies of your agreements, as Cabot is not the creditor for the purposes of the consumer credit act. This is incorrect, the act clearly states rights and duties. correct??

 

As we are not the creditors we are returning your cheques for £1 which covers the fee set by the act. Any £1 fee cashed, if any, shall also be returned to you. Furthermore, as we have no obligation under the above act to supply the information, the time limit does not apply to us. I CCA'd the credit card companies, hodsons and cabot uk.

 

Cabot Financial UK Limited formerly Kings Hill No1 Limited purchased your accounts from XYZ AND XYZ and therefore Cabot Financial UK Limited is the legalk owner of your accounts. The rights but not the duties of XYZ and XYZ were assigned to Cabot Financial UK Ltd in dealing with your accounts and therefore Cabot Financial Europe Ltd as a servicing company and agent to the Cabot Financial Group, are legally entitled to enforce the credit agreements, which you signed and consented to with XYZ and XYZ. Cabot UK registered defaults on my credit file in 2003. How can this be possible if they were called kings hill back then. Who are they sharing my data with?

 

Notwithstanding the above, we assist the creditors and our customers at all times in providing requested information.

 

Cabot previously provided you with two notices of assignment, also know as hellow letters. XYZ and XYZ also provided you with the relevant notices of assignment. The notices of assignment deem proper legal assignment of your accounts to Cabot Financial UK Ltd. Cabot did not and neither did the credit card companys. Can I make them prove it?

 

Please be aware that it can take up to 40 working days for us to receive the information you have requested so your patience in this matter will be appreciated.

 

In the meantime, please do not hesitate to contact us on 01732 775105 if you have any further queries. The customer assurance department is open from 9am to 5pm monday to friday.

 

yours sincerely

patrick hill.

 

 

In view of the claim form they have issued, I need to respond soon with a defence to the claim and also use this letter from them in my defence.

 

Any comments please...

 

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Ok, update.

 

Cabot UK registered defaults on my credit file in 2003.

 

I would like you check this again and PM me or post back here EXACTLY what is stated on your credit file as who registered the default. Please provide me with the full company name which you state was registered in 2003.

 

Then the rest can be tackled piece by piece ( hear that Mr Cabot, we are picking through your company p i e c e by p i e c e

 

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Hi Sarah,

 

Firstly, my mistake 2001 not 2003. Here's a cut and paste straight from credit expert download excluding personal info:

 

Entry Number:C1 Name and address:MR 1970

LIVES IN A HOUSE ON A STREET IN A TOWN.Date of birth:1970Company name:CABOT FINANCIAL (UK) LTDAccount type:Credit Card / Store CardStarted:16/01/1998Default Balance:£2,325Current Balance:£2,305Defaulted On:31/08/2001File updated for period to:15/04/2007Status History:

(brackets indicate most recent status)

 

 

 

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I suspect the original creditor registered the default but Cabot UK updated the file in April 07???

 

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Thanks, that explains that. The company who originally bought the debt was Kingshill No1 Ltd in 2001 and it would have been they who registered a default. You can check that from previous Credit records. CFUK changed names in January 07 with Kingshill and are now updating with CF UK at the CRA's so that explains it.

 

Okay, will get back to you on the rest..

 

Piece by Piece Mr Cabot..:D

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I've acknowledged the claim online 3 days ago, but I've not filed a defence yet. I have about 14 days to go.

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Hi Tomterm8,

 

I'm going to use your wording in post #28.

 

I'm also thinking of adding a note in regard to the fact that they admit in their recent letter they are not the creditor and therefore the claim should be struck out.

 

Good idea?

 

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Was just about to submit my defence online. I was going to add the following to the text already provided by your good self:

 

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7. The claimant admits it is not the creditor in a letter to the defendant dated 15th May 2007.

 

8. Therefore, the defendant requests that the claim is struck out on the basis of point 7 above. In the alternative, in addition to asking the court to order the disclosure of the credit agreement, notice of default in the form required by the Consumer Credit Act 1974, and notice of assignment in the form required by the Law of Property Act 1925, the defendant also requests that the court order the claimant to disclose a list of all charges made to the account and a list of the costs associated with each charge for the last 6 years in order for them to prove that the debt amounts the amount claimed.

 

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What I'm trying to achieve in point 7 is that if they admit they are not the creditor how can they make a claim. If the court doesn't agree then I want point 8 to be taken into consideration.

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Just rang the court - I have until the 4th June. So if I send the letter special delivery for guaranteed next day delivery tomorrow I can give Cabot 10 days to comply as I'll have 13 days in total.

 

I could have my defence written up as the court have given me the direct fax number for defences.

 

If Cabot do not comply with the CPR letter I assume this would add another point to my defence?

 

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