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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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Hi fellow Natwest claimers!

 

This is my first post on this site. I've been reading the forum posts over the past few weeks and now think it's time I posted for advice!

My partner has just received her Defence from Cobbetts (Natwest's Solicitors) to her Small Claims. She's claiming £1,771.00 for charges plus £460.67 interest - a total of £2,231.67. I'm also claiming £1,163.28 (including interest) from Abbey but I'll use the Abbey Forum for any future advice. I've also received my Defence from Abbey but doesn't seem so complicated - it's only got 2 pages! We both haven't received our AQ from the Court yet.

The Natwest Defence appears to be the standard 6 page one - is there anything that we should look out for that is likely to catch us out? My partners also received a Request for Further Info from Cobbetts asking for further details by 15 May under CRP Part 18. I read elsewhere on the Natwest Forum that this is just a delaying tactic by Natwest - is this true? And do we have to provide all the details their asking for? If so, please can anyone direct me to a template for a suitable reply? And what details should we have to provide?

One other thing (sorry to go on!), when we both submitted our Particulars of Claim to the Court (based on Martin Lewis's MSE template on his site), the MCOL site didn't appear to allow us enough space to add more detail. So will these original versions have to be expanded with more detail- and are there any templates available to use?

We would be grateful for any advice now it's getting all 'legal'.

Many thanks for your help in advance

Best Wishes and Good Luck to all who read this and who are still going through the claims process.

Seacalypso

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The usual cobblers from cobblers. You dont have to reply to the CPR 18, basically send them a letter saying that you dont need to, unless the court specifically asks for it. Heres where you can find most of what you are looking for...................... dont be intimidated. Thats the main thing. The cobblers will try every tactic in the book to delay, so just play the game, but dont answer anything they ask for, unless the court says to do so............. You shouldnt have to expand your POC again, unless the court asks you to do so. Just because Cobbetts say you havent particularised your claim properly doesnt mean you have to take any notice of them. The main basis for your claim is the spreadsheet showing all your itemised charges on it. So long as Cobbetts and court have had that youre ok.

 

Anything youre not sure of, just pop in and ask, but most of you need is here. If Ive missed anything at all. Just pop back and ask. All the best

 

Fendy xxxx

 

POC DETAILS.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=78

 

OTHER USEFUL INFO. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=78

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/35672-cobbetts-cpr-18-request.html

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/55874-letter-court-re-cpr18.html

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/welcome-our-forum/69359-cant-find-what-youre.html

 

THERE, EVERYTHING COVERED I THINK. THAT SHOULD HELP. But do take the time to read read read. Its so worth it. Fendy xxx

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Many thanks Fendy for getting back to me so quick.

I'll follow your advice and also use the template by Martin3030. I saw this one when I was reading through the Natwest posts last week.

Presumably once they recieve this it shuts them up - and also proves that we mean business. Also I assumed that the Court should be dictating how things should progress and what we should disclose.

 

I'll send this letter off soon plus other template letter under ED1237 to the Court and then see what happens then post again.

 

Once again many thanks for your advice

 

Best Regards

 

Seacalypso

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We've received an offer from Natwest yesterday (3 May) for £1,700 from their Customer Relations Team in Borehamwood Herts (just a day after the defence was sent out by Cobbetts - wonder if it was timed that way!?) which we're going to accept subject to them paying the court costs of £120 and sending us a cheque instead of direct payment into the account. I've been told that his is best in case they close the account plus we decide what to do with our winnings, not Natwest!

 

Is it ok to set a deadline for the cheque say 7 days to put pressure on them?? Any traps to look out for?? Will head letter "without prejudice".

 

Suprised about the size of the offer. I know we could have gone on for the whole lot but we decided to go for this amount which is what they took from my partner in the first place without the interest. Must admit we were tempted though!

 

Will keep posting until money received.

 

Seacalypso

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I wouldnt accept it. Your letting them off. You only have a few weeks to go before you can get the lot.

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I wouldnt accept it. Your letting them off. You only have a few weeks to go before you can get the lot.

 

I agree, they are only giving you what they have taken from you. and what about your court costs? £120. You are fortunate if you can afford to throw it away. Not to mention the fact that they are wasting every body's time and money. The courts are jammed full of court cases for bank charges. :eek: It is a scandalous abuse of the court systems, because they will pay you it all back for fear they have to disclose their true costs in the court. I can be a lengthy process, but patience pays out:grin:

 

I would send them back a letter saying thank you for your offer I am prepared to accept it as part settlement but will be pursuing the rest via the court.

 

The decision is entirely up to you, but you are so near to getting all of your money back

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I should say that the response from customer relations unit was a coincidence, as you know they are not writing back within the timescale so you will always file prior to receiving a letter with a full refund offer from them.

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Look at the end of the day the decision has to be yours. Personally I would continue with court and go the whole hog, but it will take longer to get your money. It depends if you are up for the fight or not. If you need the money quickly, then nobody can judge you, and nobody will think any worse of you, but I have to say if I were in your shoes, I would continue onward for the lot.................. But whatever you decide, its your decision and you have to make it alone................... we are all right behind you to help see it through to the end if you decide to see it through court, but YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU. Go with your gut instincts and you decide. All the very best, whatever your decision. Fendy xxx

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