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    • Hobnail you don't know Elms too well yet. I am surprised that they got as close as they did to adding up to 30. I think the poor dears get confused because most other letters they send out are to give 28 days notice. They even  have difficulty with their two times table and often consult with the char lady to confirm that 2 plus 2 equals 4.  Just act on the notion that they are total numpties and you won't be far out.
    • To carry on from the above post it may be helpful to go through their WS using their numbers. 9] motorists do NOT accept the contract when entering the land. First they have to read it and understand it and then they realise that a] "No stopping" is prohibitive and cannot offer a contract. b] the signs around the bus stop do not mention who issued the No Stopping signs so it could not have been issued by VCS since the IPC CoP states that their signs should include the IPC logo and the creditor be identified.  10]There is no mention of £100 charge for breaching the No stopping request or if there is it is far too small to read even for a pedestrian. 11] no matter how often VCS say it, it is NOT a contractual clause   22]" the claimant has given the Defendant its contractual licence to enter the site". No it hasn't. This is a road leading to the airport. All sorts of people are going to the airport-travellers, taxis, fuel bowsers, airport staff, companies delivering food and drink for each aircraft, air traffic controllers, buses. It is absolutely ridiculous to attribute VCS wth any sort of permissions. The land owners yes, but not VCS . There can be no sort of analogy between a car park and a major thoroughfare where VCS have no place as it is not relevant land.   23] there can be no contract as there is no offer only a prohibition. And it is not relevant land no matter how Mr Walli attempts to prove otherwise. 25] VCS may have won a few times but none quoted was on an airport covered by the RTA and its own Byelaws. They also have lost more cases than they have won using their prohibitive signs. 26] First one has to consider if there is a contract. Is it relevant land? No. Does a valid contract exist betweer VCS and Peel? NO.  27] the signage at the bus stop may show the conditions ie  no stopping, and restricted zone but not the terms ie is there a charge for stopping and who is the creditor. The last section of the sign is illegible  29] already stated that a WS between VCS and peel is not a valid document 31] it will need more than the Claimants feather to outweigh the case against the Defendant no matter who was driving. 32] there is no law of agency involved. This is not a case of employer/employedd relationship. VCS are muddying the waters because they have no way of transferring the driver's liability to the keeper 33] this a red herring. There is no list of highways at all  on the Highways act 1980 so this is a deliberate strategy to debunk the fact that this road is not relevant land. VCS are put to strict proof that it is relevant land not covered by the Road Traffic Act nor by Byelaws. 34] there ican be no comparison between a railway station and an airport. Totally fatuous analogy.  35] yes the landowners can bring in their own terms but what the cannot do is overrule Byelaws and the Road Traffic Act. 39] surely the paralegal cannot be that ignorant of PoFA. If Bye Laws are involved then the bus stop is not relevant land and so the specious argument about FGW is rubbish   36] what on earth is he talking about with Permits. There is no mention of permits on the signage and even if there were  would it mean that Permit holders were allowed to stop on No Stopping roads? There are enough examples on CAG to counter act their idiocy on continuing charging the extra £60   46] VCS had NO reasonable cause to apply to the DVLA for the Defendants details. No valid  contract with the landowners No stopping is prohibitive therefore cannot form a contract the event happened on a bus stop over which VCS has no jurisdiction the signage either does not show that there was a charge of £100 for stopping, or the font size was too small for a motorist to be able to read it  the signage does not show the Creditor which fails the IPC CoP so not valid the WS contract does not appear to authorise VCS to pursue motorists to Court Given all these factors it seems that VCS have breached the GDPR of the Defendant quite substantially and it would appear right that an exemplary award is made against VCS in the hope that they will drop all further cases at Doncaster airport where they are pursuing motorists on non relevant land.   48] what is this guy on? You weren't in a car park you were on a bus stop 59] this case is totally without merit. I am not surprised that the paralegal will not be turning up. Some statements are pretty close to perjury and others are designed to mislead or misdirect. None of the analogies seem appropriate or relevant. Could have been said in at least half the time without the repetition and trying to make a case where none was there. One particularly bad example of misdirection was in the photographs. The Clearway sign shown near the bus stop is very unclear  unlike the Clearway sign two photos before it which may well include terms and conditions. The one by the bus stop is totally different.      
    • just type no need to keep hitting quote...   your defence doesnt need any return of docs.. carefully read what has been posted here and in the other threads i pointed to in your old thread merged here too.   redwood/harwood or STA or brachers.   just use our enhanced google search box.   uni fees is useful too.   this guy is just in front of you    
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    • I have just spent last few hours registering and signing up and filling in all the details.   Below is a POC I have drafted.   The defendant is a parcel delivery company DPD (UK) LIMITED On 09/08/2021 the defendant agreed to deliver the claimant's parcel containing a PlayStation 5 Disc Version value £530, to an address in the UK. The delivery fee of £7.79 was paid by the claimant. Parcel tracking number: ???????? Parcel reference no: ????????? The defendant failed to deliver the parcel and have reported it as lost on 20/08/2021. The defendant refuses to refund the full value of the item and the delivery fee. The claimant seeks £530 being the value of the item, £7.79 delivery cost and legal fees.        (Sorry for being stupid but this POC is supposed to go where it says    " Claim details Why you believe you’re owed the money: " right? Reason why I'm asking is because I don't see anywhere it specifically says what are your particulars of claim)   Tomorrow being the 15th day, I will be ready to click it off (assuming the POC is ok)    I have read a few more hermes/packlink etc stories where they were resolved and gives me hope I will regain my lost money.  Will carry on reading up as much as I can.  
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Hi all this is my 2nd post as far as my claim goes I have done the letter thing 1 acknowledged & fobbed off the other completely ignored - from what I've read the Norm for lloyds, went to MCOL and had my claim issued today - Reference 7QZ57691 so batten down the hatches I think its going to be a bumpy one!! :wink:

 

I have promised myself I am not going to take any CR*P from these people!!

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So we arrive at the first stepping stone - acknowlegment day - my claim says that the defendant should acknowledge by today, nothing on MCOL or received from them at all so far - any suggestions?

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I would give them a couple more days, then come back on and tell us if they still haven't acknowleged. What address did you use for Lloyds on your claim?

Good luck, let us know how you get on.

Barty:)

I WON!!!! :D :D :D

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/lloydstsb-successes/1774-barty-lloyds-tsb.html

 

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Thanks for replying Barty

 

The address I used was

 

Lloyds TSB Bank plc

25 Gresham Street

LONDON

EC2V 7HN

 

Head office so they should have it :grin:

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So today I get my copy of Lloyds Defence - 9 points, also AQ has been dispensed with, what happens next? Is it just wait for a date from my local court?

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Thanks Barty, I will send in the proposed directions order tomorrow, I take it SC&M get a copy as well? also I take it the draft order is sent to the court manager at the moment as no Judge has yet been allocated? Better start preparing my bundle!! ;)

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OK I have now received my notice of allocation to the small claims track notice - it reads as follows

 

District Judge ****** has considered the statements of case and allocation questionnaires filed and allocated the claim to the small claims track

 

the hearing of the claim will take place at 10.30am on 30 August 2007 and should take no longer than 30 mins

 

The court must be informed immediately if the case is settled by agreement before the hearing date

 

Each party shall deliver to every other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which he intends to rely at the hearing 14 days before the hearing

 

The original documents shall be brought to the hearing

 

The claimant shall by 4pm on 15th June 2007 file with the sourt and serve on the defendant a schedule showing how the amount claimed is said to be computed and the dates of the charges complained of.

 

Date: 12 June 2007

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I take it that is just a copy of my schedule to be served by Friday?

 

Also do I send a copy of my original spreadsheet or an up to date one including interest since the claim was filed?

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Well today I got home for my lunch and there was a letter there from SC&M offering Full and Final settlement of my claim plus int plus cost + extra £100.00 - All in £4486.48 :o court date isn't until 30th Aug so I'm quite shocked. No mention of not claiming again in the conditions so I might as well sign and send back - happy chappy :D

I can afford to take my 2 yr old daughter to eurodisney now :D

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Excellent!!

 

Please complete the bank survey……….and maybe a donation.

 

See here for advice after settlement:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/7261-when-you-get-your.html

 

Please PM a Mod with details of your settlement for the Litigation Concluded forum

 

Congratulations. Enjoy the dosh!!!

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