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Hi, I have just started to get involved in claiming my bank charges back.

 

I sent my letter off on Monday to Abbey trying to claim back £4471.50.

I'm going to wait and see what happens. Does anyone know if the 14 days stated in the letter you send out mean 14 days or 14 working days?

I was going to wait till 8th May and then send the next letter if I don't hear anything from them in the first instance.

I have paid off my overdraft and am opening up a new bank account.

Has anyone got any advice for dealing with Abbey?

Hope you can help.

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Hi saskia,

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Please find your banks forum and start a thread;

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Hello,

 

Its 14 days. So if it went on the 16th, 2 days for posting, then the 14 days is up on the 2nd.

 

As for dealing with Abbey, I found a good solid wall for banging your head against is essential. They will stall but just stick to YOUR deadlines and it will be fine. They wont settle with you until the last minute, but if you follow the process correctly, they will settle, just make sure you dont accept anything less than 100%.

 

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Hi Louis, thanks for your help. To be honest banking with Abbey has been like my banging my head against a brick wall for the last 7 years.

 

They got my letter on the 17th so wll work 14 days from the 18th.

 

Did you get your charges back from Abbey?

 

And I intend to get the full amount. I have time to make sure I do everything correctly and am prepared to go to court if necessary.

 

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Stick with it Saskia and do not let Abbey try and dictate terms to you-follow the threads given by Happy and you cannot go wrong.

 

Also read the other Abbey threads.

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Did you get your charges back from Abbey?

 

And I intend to get the full amount. I have time to make sure I do everything correctly and am prepared to go to court if necessary.

 

Cheers, Saskia

 

 

Yes, just over £2000, another £2000+ thats just gone past court paperwork (N1 form), and just temtatively starting a claim for an old (1987-2002) account.

 

They will pay, and your attitude is perfect. Its going to need a bit of patience, but you will win (I think you alreadt know that:)), and the satisfaction (and cash) really make you smile.

 

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