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    • OP stated they had been arrested, but not charged (let alone convicted). They DON'T have a criminal record, but do have an entry on the PNC. That information stays on the PNC (Police National Computer) for life, but doesn't get released in a standard DBS. It only MIGHT get released for an Enhanced DBS (eDBS) check  ... but it would be incredibly unlikely. (The rational behind this is that eDBS's allow for 'information at Chief Officer of Police's discretion' ..... this covers the 2 'barring lists' and is also intended for the scenario where someone has multiple arrests or investigations, where safeguarding is a concern .... it was brought in after the Soham murders / Ian Huntley case, where the information known about the now-convicted child murderer may have prevented his employment in a school, had it been made available). So, for the sake of accuracy and completeness, arrests stay on the PNC for life, wont appear in a standard DBS, MIGHT appear in an eDBS, but in reality, would be the exception rather than the norm, and I can't see them being released  to a defense barrister. What then if the defence found out a different way, and brought it up in court?. Again, unlikely, but the important feature is that the judge would make sure they trod very carefully!. They MIGHT consider using it if there were other factors that allowed them to try to cast doubts as to the truthfulness of your evidence, but on its own : No way. Anyone MIGHT be arrested (if a seemingly plausible complaint been made against them)! The approach to take if it did come up is to be truthful. "Yes, I was arrested. It arose from a vexatious complaint. I wasn't charged, let alone convicted. That could happen to any one of us, if a vexatious complaint gets made" Far better that than lying, saying you'd never been arrested, and getting caught in a lie : that would ruin your credibility. I'm incredibly doubtful it will even come up, though.
    • we dont get N157 because its new OCMC but no court dont have evidence either.   Just seems a bit of a pointless wait but oh well
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I like the sound of it.

 

Not quite to that level, but certainly a sort of 'points' system.

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I will be testing you later in PC chat

 

Wonder if Jules is referring to the site where I have a double and am being impersonated? laughs...

 

Flattered - they say impersonation is the highest form of flattery!

 

The poem was meant to be funny Jules - the format went wrong when pasting...am I bovvered who read it? No. Will I continue to back their stand - Yes.

 

It is quieter without the bear garden, but I do believe chat is a tool that is needed.

 

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....but there already is a chat tool - over at penaltycharges.co.uk

 

Personally I feel better with it over there where it's not our responsibility.

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Your right Dave - neither is the advice given in there...which is a shame as people trust the advice they are given here....isn't that important?

 

Obviously - quietly the decision has been made it appears? perhaps.

 

This is your site and Bankfodders Dave and while I am only a guest here, it is a grave shame that chat is not seen for the tool that it is.

 

I won't be looking out for any updates - as your statement above sort of says it all.

 

Dissapointed.

 

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I do think the chatroom will be back in due course, once we can be sure that the trouble makers have actually come good on their word and left.

 

We asked nicely, got no response, we got slightly more heavy handed and got no response. The only thing left to do was to take it away.

 

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Dave,

 

While I would like to hold some faith in your words - chat has been down now for nearly a week and no date for its return and still the contraversy reigns in this thread.

 

I now refuse to keep coming back here and defending chat and its use - your site, do as you will but you won't ever completely remove those out to cause trouble or disharmony.

 

As I said, only a guest here but saw as did many the value of chat to the CAG toolbox and tired of defending it now and placing posts here that go unheard.

 

Shame....that the newbies who so need it and those going through the motions and more intimidating games the banks play that don't want to go else where but trust being here, are the ones disadvantage.

 

All the sites as you well know do not back people as solidly as this site does, nor give as accurate information and feedback. So to send them to another chat site for help, keeps them there and away from here and can risk claims.

 

While that is not your responsability - what annoys me is that those responsible for the chat loss - don't appear to care as much as others about having the facility returned.

 

Returning to the threads. Your site. Your choices. Back to threads -

 

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Ok , another question .......

 

Certain threads in the Bear Garden that were unaffected by security breaches , i.e London Picnic , Wakefield meet, Manchester meet etc etc .

 

Is it possible for those to be moved either here or to another forum so we can carry on as they were ? Or can we start fresh ones in here ? I for one would like to carry on getting peeps together for the Wakefield meet and seeing as we don`t know how long it will be before The Bear Garden is back up and running would rather make alternative arrangements sooner rather than later.

 

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I was going to suggest a "Meetups" forum the other night (last night in fact), but fell asleep on the sofa after a very long day!

 

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I was going to suggest a "Meetups" forum the other night (last night in fact), but fell asleep on the sofa after a very long day!

 

I'll run it past the others and see what the outcome is.

 

A very long day? And how many pints was that ?

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Ok , another question .......

 

Certain threads in the Bear Garden that were unaffected by security breaches , i.e London Picnic , Wakefield meet, Manchester meet etc etc .

 

Is it possible for those to be moved either here or to another forum so we can carry on as they were ? Or can we start fresh ones in here ? I for one would like to carry on getting peeps together for the Wakefield meet and seeing as we don`t know how long it will be before The Bear Garden is back up and running would rather make alternative arrangements sooner rather than later.

 

Pretty please with cherries on top

 

I think thats an excellent idea but also think that the chance of that also not being used as a platform for disgruntled users ,who are just out to cause unrest , is slim .. so if opened how long do you think it will last Jules ?

When you want to fool the world, tell the truth. :D

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re::: trouble makers,

 

I am sure most of the people that used chat wasn't trouble makers, one person was nearly at their 1000 post for this site. To me that person has put alot of effort and time into making posts.

 

It is a shame this chatroom to be closed, after all most people went into it to help or have fun in off topic.

 

Lets stop blaming the people that used chat on a daily basis, and get back to claiming our charges back

 

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I'm not blaming people who used chat who were not trouble makers - just the ones that were.

 

They know who they were, and despite being asked politely to leave the site, she (or he) returned and caused as much disruption as they possibly could via the chatroom mainly, then breached the chatroom security.

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...Shame that the newbies who so need it and those going through the motions and more intimidating games the banks play that don't want to go else where but trust being here, are the ones disadvantage...

 

CJ - Whilst I agree that the chat room CAN be a good extension of the facilities we offer users, the site grew amazingly quickly and operated in a perfectly useful manner before its introduction. I really can't see that new users will be 'disadvantaged' by not having the extra facility of chat.

 

All they need to do is read for years on end like the rest of us did and then start a thread of their own - using it to update us and ask relevant questions.

 

re::: trouble makers,

 

I am sure most of the people that used chat wasn't trouble makers, one person was nearly at their 1000 post for this site. To me that person has put alot of effort and time into making posts...

 

Since no name has been mentioned in that statement (quite rightly too) then there can be no direct response to it, but suffice to say that no amount of posts will ever entitle a user to abuse the facilities we offer and carry on regardless.

 

I am very confident that any users whose accounts were directly affected because of chat room incidents would have deserved what they received.

 

However, ever user has a chance to put things right in time - hence the reason why they are not banned.

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I was going to suggest a "Meetups" forum the other night (last night in fact), but fell asleep on the sofa after a very long day!

 

I'll run it past the others and see what the outcome is.

 

I hope the outcome is positive. I had just about plucked up the courage to try and organize a Welsh meet (after the Xmas one fell flat) and now am worried by the time the Bear garden goes back on I will have chickened out again:o lol.

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Have been reading all of this with interest! I only ever visited Chat twice and rapidly exited - I found it quite intimidating and some of the language was foul - OK I know that I have a choice and decided not to visit again. However, all the information that one needs is on the various threads if enough time is taken into researching and asking. Chat in my opinion is not necessary for the success of this site and only opens up a new can of worms and, can as we now know, be abused. The Bear Garden was fun, but was hijacked on numerous occasions and I don't see how Dave and BF can get round this - it only needs for a new thread to start and everyone pile into it with accusations, until it is closed. It's a great shame that so much damage has been done by the few but I'm sure in a month's time it will be forgotten. Newbies arriving will have no idea of the historic problems and will hopefully use the forums as originally designed? Can't we just get on with reclaiming our money! Just my thoughts!:confused:

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Thanks Dave - I totally appreciate your reply! Ever wondered what seemed like a good idea a year ago...! Do you really need the grief? Its a case of you can never keep everyone happy and what people seem to forget is that is not THEIR site but yours and BF'S. I wouldn't blame you if you decided to let it go (but not until I've reclaimed all my money!):D

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trouble makers ??

 

I visited chat reguarly and ony twice saw a trouble maker,

 

the rest of the time I saw help. advice, kindness and compassion and in Off-Topic lots of laughter.

 

I am mystified by the thought of trouble makers for as far as I can see only friendly peeps giving up there time to help, and advise. even in Off Topic if a newbie or anyone came in looking for help it was always given.

 

i hope that chat wont be remembered for this because it wasnt like that !

 

It has helped a great many that struggle with the forums, thats wot it did best and thats wot should be remembered and apeciated for.

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trouble makers ??

 

I visited chat reguarly and ony twice saw a trouble maker,

 

the rest of the time I saw help. advice, kindness and compassion and in Off-Topic lots of laughter.

 

I am mystified by the thought of trouble makers for as far as I can see only friendly peeps giving up there time to help, and advise. even in Off Topic if a newbie or anyone came in looking for help it was always given.

 

i hope that chat wont be remembered for this because it wasnt like that !

 

It has helped a great many that struggle with the forums, thats wot it did best and thats wot should be remembered and apeciated for.

 

Hear Hear!!

 

I was a regualr in the chat room, I used to help out where I could in the Help & Advice room, and I also used to get involved in the banter in Off Topic. I was made to feel welcome by the regulars when I first went in there, and I ensured I welcomed other new users when they came in.

 

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Well, as has been pointed out, that was sadly not the experience of everyone who visited it.

 

It would be fair to say that 'trouble makers' were not the majority - but it only takes a few to spoil the facility. If you missed it all, then I'm glad. Nobody should have had to see it!

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I visited chat reguarly and only twice saw a trouble maker,

 

 

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