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    • love the extra £1000 charge for confidentialy there BF   Also OP even if they don't offer OOC it doesn't mean your claim isn't good. I had 3 against EVRi that were heard over the last 3 weeks. They sent me emails asking me to discontinue as I wouldn't win. Went infront of a judge and won all 3.    Just remember the law is on your side. The judges will be aware of this.   Where you can its important to try to point out at the hearing the specific part of the contract they breached. I found this was very helpful and the Judge made reference to it when they gave their judgements and it seemed this was pretty important as once you have identified a specific breach the matter turns straight to liability. From there its a case of pointing out the unlawfullness of their insurance and then that should be it.
    • I know dx and thanks again for yours and others help. I was 99.999% certain last payment was over six years ago if not longer.  👍
    • Paragraph 23 – "standard industry practice" – put this in bold type. They are stupid to rely on this and we might as well carry on emphasising how stupid they are. I wonder why they could even have begun to think some kind of compelling argument – "the other boys do it so I do it as well…" Same with paragraph 26   Paragraph 45 – The Defendants have so far been unable to produce any judgements at any level which disagree with the three judgements…  …court, but I would respectfully request…   Just the few amendments above – and I think it's fine. I think you should stick to the format that you are using. This has been used lots of times and has even been applauded by judges for being meticulous and clear. You aren't a professional. Nobody is expecting professional standards and although it's important that you understand exactly what you are doing – you don't really want to come over to the judge that you have done this kind of thing before. As a litigant in person you get a certain licence/leeway from judges and that is helpful to you – especially if you are facing a professional advocate. The way this is laid out is far clearer than the mess that you will get from EVRi. Quite frankly they undermine their own credibility by trying to say that they should win simply because it is "standard industry practice". It wouldn't at all surprise me if EVRi make you a last moment offer of the entire value of your claim partly to avoid judgement and also partly to avoid the embarrassment of having this kind of rubbish exposed in court. If they do happen to do that, then you should make sure that they pay everything. If they suddenly make you an out-of-court offer and this means that they are worried that they are going to lose and so you must make sure that you get every penny – interest, costs – everything you claimed. Finally, if they do make you an out-of-court offer they will try to sign you up to a confidentiality agreement. The answer to that is absolutely – No. It's not part of the claim and if they want to settle then they settle the claim as it stands and don't try add anything on. If they want confidentiality then that will cost an extra £1000. If they don't like it then they can go do the other thing. Once you have made the amendments suggested above – it should be the final version. court,. I don't think we are going to make any more changes. Your next job good to make sure that you are completely familiar with it all. That you understand the arguments. Have you made a court familiarisation visit?
    • just type no need to keep hitting quote... as has already been said, they use their own criteria. if a person is not stated as linked to you on your file then no cant hurt you. not all creditors use every CRA provider, there are only 3 main credit file providers mind, the rest are just 3rd party data sharers. if you already have revolving credit on your file there is no need to apply for anything just 'because' you need to show you can handle money. if you have bank account(s) and a mortgage which you are servicing (paying) then nothing more can improve your score, despite what these 'scam' sites claiml  its all a CON!!  
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trust me I have more than that up my sleeve!

 

my ex husband thinks he has found the original paperwork showing that the CC was in his sole name AND it was listed on his bankrupcy order

 

IF its the same account we are gonna sue em all the way!

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Kewl. :)

Smile:-The Ethical Bank:- Settled July 2006

HSBC:- Pre-lim sent 09/10/2006

LBA sent:-26/10/2006

Court papers issued:- 13/11/2006

Citifinancial/DLC:- Ongoing since 21st August. Now part of an OFT investigation into Debt Collection Practices.

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bombard them! lol

Me Vs AA/Blair Oliver - Defaulted on CCA, Committed Criminal Offence, started chasing payment

 

Me Vs Great Universal - Wrote off the 2k balance, couldnt supply docs

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/74209-me-littlewoods-catalogue.html

 

My Friend Vs Lowell Portfolio - Balance written off, all action stopped!

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/75075-my-friend-lowell-victory.html

 

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and possibly ICO for breach of data protection if they are still adding things to your credit file.

Me Vs AA/Blair Oliver - Defaulted on CCA, Committed Criminal Offence, started chasing payment

 

Me Vs Great Universal - Wrote off the 2k balance, couldnt supply docs

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/74209-me-littlewoods-catalogue.html

 

My Friend Vs Lowell Portfolio - Balance written off, all action stopped!

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/75075-my-friend-lowell-victory.html

 

My Friend Vs Empire Catalogue - Balance Cleared

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/75713-my-friend-empire-droyds.html

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bombard them! lol

 

looks like I am writing them some letters this weekend then!

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ok update

 

have been on hols so not been able to follow this up but in the meantime have recieved 2 more letters stating they are awaiting copy blah blah account on hold blah blah blah

 

they have also updated my credit file (naughty naughty)

 

so I am now sending them this letter!

 

"

 

I refer to my letter dated 14/05/2007 which was delivered via recorded delivery to your office.

 

In my letter I made a formal request for a copy of the signed, executed credit agreement for the above numbered XXXXX account under section 77(1) and section 78(1) of the Consumer Credit Act.

The Consumer Credit Act allows 12 working days for this request to be carried out before your company enter into a default situation. If the request has not been satisfied after a further 30 calendar days, Your company commits an offence. These time limits expired on 04/06/2007 and 12/07/2007 respectively.

 

As you are no doubt aware subsection (6) states:

 

If the creditor under an agreement fails to comply with subsection (1)—

 

(a) He is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement; and

(b) If the default continues for one month he commits an offence.

 

Therefore as at 12/07/2007 this account became unenforceable at law and it is now my intention to refer this matter to the enforcement authorities.

 

Any default notices or adverse comments your company have recorded on my credit reference file should be immediately removed.

 

Failure to respond favourably to this letter within seven (7) days of receipt will result in immediate litigation being commenced against your company without further notice.

 

I await your rapid response.

Yours Faithfully

"

all ok?

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Yup, reads fine.

 

The only thing I would change is threatening them with litigation, unless you're actually gonna do it in seven days.

Have you actually reported them to the relevant authorities? If not this should be your next step rather than spending £150 on a court case you probably won't need.

Alternatively, check your credit report, if they have already removed it, (as they appear to be claiming), then there is nothing more to do.

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credit report was checked this morning online and they ammended it AFTER I sent the letter placing the account in dispute to show the updated balance!

 

shall threaten them with the relevant authorities first though - thanks for your input :)

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Oh right, THAT kind of update.

 

Still would go with the authorities first, if for no other reason than to show a court you've exhausted all other avenues.

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HSBC:- Pre-lim sent 09/10/2006

LBA sent:-26/10/2006

Court papers issued:- 13/11/2006

Citifinancial/DLC:- Ongoing since 21st August. Now part of an OFT investigation into Debt Collection Practices.

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ok what do I do now???

 

have recieved this letter from them

 

thank you for your recent letter dated 30th July 2007 regarding the above account. This has been passed to me for attention.

 

I can confirm and advise the following:

 

1.The offene of not supplying the date requested under the consumer credit act 1974 is the time period stated in the legislation can be remedied by producing the documents. This we intend to do and have floowed up our request to the original lender for a copy of your original agreement.

2.Your account is on hold and all further action has been suspended pending documentation from our client.

3. Although we are unable to supply a copy document at this time, we will continue to notify the Credit Reference Agencies of the account status. You are entitled to apply to the Credit Reference Agencies for a notice of correction to be applied to your account.

 

Shoud you require anything further at this point please contact me accordingly. I will update you on developments in 21 days id there are no developments before hand

 

yours sincerely

 

blah blah blah

 

 

 

 

so are they sayign that basically they can keep this default on my file even though they cant even prove I have a debt???!!!

 

help please!

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anyone? this one has me a bit stumped, especially as I have spoken to A&L and they have no records of this now at all and have confirmed all documentation regarding to the debt was sent to DLC in 2003!

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1.The offene of not supplying the date requested under the consumer credit act 1974 is the time period stated in the legislation can be remedied by producing the documents.

Eh no, the offence still remains.

 

This we intend to do and have floowed up our request to the original lender for a copy of your original agreement.

 

Doesn't sound as if they are going to get a copy though.

 

2.Your account is on hold and all further action has been suspended pending documentation from our client.

 

Well that's a legal requirement, so thanks for nothing.

 

3. Although we are unable to supply a copy document at this time, we will continue to notify the Credit Reference Agencies of the account status.

Well actually that's an offence.

 

You are entitled to apply to the Credit Reference Agencies for a notice of correction to be applied to your account.

 

And their point is?

 

so are they sayign that basically they can keep this default on my file even though they cant even prove I have a debt???!!!

 

Basically yes. They are saying that they can enter whatever they like on your credit file.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Eh no, the offence still remains.

 

 

Doesn't sound as if they are going to get a copy though.

 

 

Well that's a legal requirement, so thanks for nothing.

 

 

Well actually that's an offence.

 

 

And their point is?

 

 

Basically yes. They are saying that they can enter whatever they like on your credit file.

 

 

so what do I do now?

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i dont think there is much you can do until they say the cant get a copy of the agreement,

 

you could remind them though that while the account is in dispute they are not allowed to share your data with any 3rd parties (including credit reference agencies) under the guidelines of the OFT.

Me Vs AA/Blair Oliver - Defaulted on CCA, Committed Criminal Offence, started chasing payment

 

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What have TS and the like said?

 

They need to see a copy of this.

 

I would also forward a copy to the Information Commissioners Office and ask for their opinion.

 

Write back and ask them under whose authority they are supplying your data to the CRA's. Explain that you believe they are in breach of section 174 of the CCA as they have failed to show where you provided such authority.

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HSBC:- Pre-lim sent 09/10/2006

LBA sent:-26/10/2006

Court papers issued:- 13/11/2006

Citifinancial/DLC:- Ongoing since 21st August. Now part of an OFT investigation into Debt Collection Practices.

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unfortunately due to extreme ill health I have not been able to persue this thus farhowever today I recieved statements from the alleged original account, shame they didnt get the address at the time correct!

 

 

oh and still no credit agreement!

 

 

and at no time did I request th statements lol :(

 

seriously guys not got the energy atm, my treatment is kinda wearing me down but rest assured I will be back fighting soon!

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Hope you are feeling better soon Morteee....keep fighting. You'll get there in the end.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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am still getting the 21 day letters stating they are waiting for a copy of the credit agreement from the OC, the OC has confirmed to me in writing that they dont hold a copy of it so I am going to wait til I have 6 months worth of these lovely letters from Mr Locke then I am hitting them with TS :)

 

ps Mr Locke refuses to talk to me on the phone ;)

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