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    • Hobnail you don't know Elms too well yet. I am surprised that they got as close as they did to adding up to 30. I think the poor dears get confused because most other letters they send out are to give 28 days notice. They even  have difficulty with their two times table and often consult with the char lady to confirm that 2 plus 2 equals 4.  Just act on the notion that they are total numpties and you won't be far out.
    • To carry on from the above post it may be helpful to go through their WS using their numbers. 9] motorists do NOT accept the contract when entering the land. First they have to read it and understand it and then they realise that a] "No stopping" is prohibitive and cannot offer a contract. b] the signs around the bus stop do not mention who issued the No Stopping signs so it could not have been issued by VCS since the IPC CoP states that their signs should include the IPC logo and the creditor be identified.  10]There is no mention of £100 charge for breaching the No stopping request or if there is it is far too small to read even for a pedestrian. 11] no matter how often VCS say it, it is NOT a contractual clause   22]" the claimant has given the Defendant its contractual licence to enter the site". No it hasn't. This is a road leading to the airport. All sorts of people are going to the airport-travellers, taxis, fuel bowsers, airport staff, companies delivering food and drink for each aircraft, air traffic controllers, buses. It is absolutely ridiculous to attribute VCS wth any sort of permissions. The land owners yes, but not VCS . There can be no sort of analogy between a car park and a major thoroughfare where VCS have no place as it is not relevant land.   23] there can be no contract as there is no offer only a prohibition. And it is not relevant land no matter how Mr Walli attempts to prove otherwise. 25] VCS may have won a few times but none quoted was on an airport covered by the RTA and its own Byelaws. They also have lost more cases than they have won using their prohibitive signs. 26] First one has to consider if there is a contract. Is it relevant land? No. Does a valid contract exist betweer VCS and Peel? NO.  27] the signage at the bus stop may show the conditions ie  no stopping, and restricted zone but not the terms ie is there a charge for stopping and who is the creditor. The last section of the sign is illegible  29] already stated that a WS between VCS and peel is not a valid document 31] it will need more than the Claimants feather to outweigh the case against the Defendant no matter who was driving. 32] there is no law of agency involved. This is not a case of employer/employedd relationship. VCS are muddying the waters because they have no way of transferring the driver's liability to the keeper 33] this a red herring. There is no list of highways at all  on the Highways act 1980 so this is a deliberate strategy to debunk the fact that this road is not relevant land. VCS are put to strict proof that it is relevant land not covered by the Road Traffic Act nor by Byelaws. 34] there ican be no comparison between a railway station and an airport. Totally fatuous analogy.  35] yes the landowners can bring in their own terms but what the cannot do is overrule Byelaws and the Road Traffic Act. 39] surely the paralegal cannot be that ignorant of PoFA. If Bye Laws are involved then the bus stop is not relevant land and so the specious argument about FGW is rubbish   36] what on earth is he talking about with Permits. There is no mention of permits on the signage and even if there were  would it mean that Permit holders were allowed to stop on No Stopping roads? There are enough examples on CAG to counter act their idiocy on continuing charging the extra £60   46] VCS had NO reasonable cause to apply to the DVLA for the Defendants details. No valid  contract with the landowners No stopping is prohibitive therefore cannot form a contract the event happened on a bus stop over which VCS has no jurisdiction the signage either does not show that there was a charge of £100 for stopping, or the font size was too small for a motorist to be able to read it  the signage does not show the Creditor which fails the IPC CoP so not valid the WS contract does not appear to authorise VCS to pursue motorists to Court Given all these factors it seems that VCS have breached the GDPR of the Defendant quite substantially and it would appear right that an exemplary award is made against VCS in the hope that they will drop all further cases at Doncaster airport where they are pursuing motorists on non relevant land.   48] what is this guy on? You weren't in a car park you were on a bus stop 59] this case is totally without merit. I am not surprised that the paralegal will not be turning up. Some statements are pretty close to perjury and others are designed to mislead or misdirect. None of the analogies seem appropriate or relevant. Could have been said in at least half the time without the repetition and trying to make a case where none was there. One particularly bad example of misdirection was in the photographs. The Clearway sign shown near the bus stop is very unclear  unlike the Clearway sign two photos before it which may well include terms and conditions. The one by the bus stop is totally different.      
    • just type no need to keep hitting quote...   your defence doesnt need any return of docs.. carefully read what has been posted here and in the other threads i pointed to in your old thread merged here too.   redwood/harwood or STA or brachers.   just use our enhanced google search box.   uni fees is useful too.   this guy is just in front of you    
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    • I have just spent last few hours registering and signing up and filling in all the details.   Below is a POC I have drafted.   The defendant is a parcel delivery company DPD (UK) LIMITED On 09/08/2021 the defendant agreed to deliver the claimant's parcel containing a PlayStation 5 Disc Version value £530, to an address in the UK. The delivery fee of £7.79 was paid by the claimant. Parcel tracking number: ???????? Parcel reference no: ????????? The defendant failed to deliver the parcel and have reported it as lost on 20/08/2021. The defendant refuses to refund the full value of the item and the delivery fee. The claimant seeks £530 being the value of the item, £7.79 delivery cost and legal fees.        (Sorry for being stupid but this POC is supposed to go where it says    " Claim details Why you believe you’re owed the money: " right? Reason why I'm asking is because I don't see anywhere it specifically says what are your particulars of claim)   Tomorrow being the 15th day, I will be ready to click it off (assuming the POC is ok)    I have read a few more hermes/packlink etc stories where they were resolved and gives me hope I will regain my lost money.  Will carry on reading up as much as I can.  
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This is my first post on the Nat West site I am just coming to the end of a claim agianst Barclays so thought I would send off for my statements and get my post started.

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Welcome Conni - keep us updated on your progress

iGroup (GE Money) - AoS Filed late, defence late, amended defence also late despite extra time requested and granted.

Vanquis - Claim issued, no AoS or Defence received

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Having been there and done it once, you should be pretty familiar with the process then. Welcome aboard though Connie. Im also on the Abbey forum too, but I have to say, the Natwest one certainly seems to have the friendliest and funnies peeps on the whole forum.......... Its a right giggle,,,,,,,,,,,, but with a serious purpose too. Im sure you will be checking on for way more laughs again soon.

 

All the best............ and welcome.

 

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NATWEST BANK CLAIM - £16,100.00 WON

ABBEY BANK - £5500.00 WON

CAPITAL ONE VISA - £1800.00 WON

HUBBYS CAPITAL ONE VISA £2012.00 WON

TOTAL WON TO DATE: £25,400

*************************************************:D :D

NATWEST BANK -CLAIM 2 PRE 6 YEARS- ONGOING

ABBEY BANK -CLAIM 2 PRE 6 YEARS - ONGOING

YORKSHIRE BANK - AT SAR STATUS

HALIFAX CREDIT CARD - AT SAR STATUS

PLENTY MORE TO START LATER.

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Thanks for the lovely warm welcome, will keep you updated but in reading some of the other posts it is going to be some time before my next post as they seem to take some time in sending out the statements, but my local branch is very friendly and helpful, we support the same football team!

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So a huge plus point in your favour then too. Thats it. Think positive and you will win, YET AGAIN.............. no flies on you.

 

Pop back and chat when your'e on the next bit. Fendy xx

With any luck I might have had my own spondoolies from Nutty West by then. Lol..

NATWEST BANK CLAIM - £16,100.00 WON

ABBEY BANK - £5500.00 WON

CAPITAL ONE VISA - £1800.00 WON

HUBBYS CAPITAL ONE VISA £2012.00 WON

TOTAL WON TO DATE: £25,400

*************************************************:D :D

NATWEST BANK -CLAIM 2 PRE 6 YEARS- ONGOING

ABBEY BANK -CLAIM 2 PRE 6 YEARS - ONGOING

YORKSHIRE BANK - AT SAR STATUS

HALIFAX CREDIT CARD - AT SAR STATUS

PLENTY MORE TO START LATER.

STRENGTH IS SOMETHING YOU CHOOSE IN LIFE, ITS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE YOU MAKE, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH IT. YOU LEARN IT.:D :D

 

STRENGTH, YOURE NOT BORN WITH IT, YOU LEARN IT :confused:DUE TO WHAT LIFE DOES TO YOU. :)

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  • 4 weeks later...

Got SOME of my bank statement asked for the last six years and only got them till 2002 so at least two years missing, do they usually play silly beggers and only send part of what you asked for, will write again and go into my local branch to find out where the rest are.

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Guest NATTIE

then it is perfectly normal and the branch will be able to tell you absolutely nothing about the fact that statements were even sent to you.

The rest will come in the next few days.

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Could any one tell me what I do if half the bank statements do not turn up it has been over 40 days now and still got just over 12 months bank statements missing

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Did not get my bank statements well not all of them so have sent the following letter asking for the rest in 7 days will let you know what happends

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Account: xxxxxxxx

 

I am in receipt of the documents that you have supplied in response to my Data Protection Act information request dated 14.04.2007. The disclosure of personal data is incomplete in that at least the following documents are missing.

 

1) You have failed to provide a complete list of transactions and charges. Bank statements from 05.04.2001 to 16.10.2002.

Accordingly, I have to tell you that you have not yet complied with your obligations under the Data Protection Act 1998.

 

If you do not comply within the next 7 days I shall seek a Court order obliging you to do so together with damages at the discretion of the Court and without any further notice.

 

 

Yours faithfully

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Looks good

 

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Hi Conni

 

You said:

If you do not comply within the next 7 days I shall seek a Court order obliging you to do so together with damages at the discretion of the Court and without any further notice.
so that's what you need to do. You cannot use MCOL for this - you will have to use an form N1 which you can download from Her Majesty's Courts Service - Home and you will find the relevant PoC in the templates library

 

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Got a letter from Nat West they want another fiver think its a buddy cheak but if it means I get my statements then will pay it and claim it back

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Cheeky s*ds! Keep a record of the cheque/postal order........... and the recorded delivery slip - get the lot back! ;)

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dont worry I will,

 

looking at the other banks it seam Nat West is not the only one not supplying the statements my nephew still hasn't got any from Barclays, but the HSBC have settled his claim out of court and only offered him £20 less than what they had taken in charges.

 

guess we are with the wrong bank!!!

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I've been thinking that for years!!! To he honest though.......... when you read the other forums - I think they're all much of a much! I.e., they all fleece you for as much as they can and rub their hands in glee whilst doing so!!! ;)

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Well Well (drum roll) sent a letter back with a cheque for £5 said I thought it was a bit cheeky as I had already paid the £10 to them and low and behold the statements came and they refunded the £5.

 

Try sending a letter saying you are enclosing the payment but point out that you have already paid for this service it may work!!!!!!!

 

Sending my prelim letter today so will report back in 14 days well due to postal strike may give them an extra couple of days

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Well done connie, and best of luck .............. luvvin' the puddie cat by the way!! xx ;)

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Just seen the news this morning on BBC say the banks are being taken to court and that no claims will be settled until the outcome of the hearing which could be next year!!! Do we keep going is it worth applying to the court if the banks are just going to apply for a stay of action until the outcome of the High Court Hearing, any suggestions. :confused:

 

yep I thought the puddy cat was cute too

 

READ THE OFT THREAD SO WILL CARRY ON AS USUAL

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I know it's easier said than done, but try not to worry too much about the news today. Business as usual conni - keep to all your deadlines and proceed as normal. xx ;)

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  • 3 weeks later...

Well got a letter from the bank basically saying they are not going to settle until the outcome of the court case with the OFT so have sent my LBA and will get my N1 filled in ready to send in 14 days as not much chance of an offer coming through

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just as a newbie to your thread (howdy by the way, I am the jester.....)

The bank CANNOT say they are not paying, only the judge can apply a stay to your claim. and if the bank do apply for a stay, there is a template out there to fight it, and try to get it removed. and I belived that someone out there has used that template, and won. So its not over till the dude with the big white wig hits his hammer thingy on Mr Natwests' noggin...... lol (I would love to do that, hit natwest.......)

 

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