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Hi,

 

I discovered last night that, in July 2004, my wife applied for a First Plus loan of £75K + £15K 'insurance', secured against our house for which we have a joint mortgage.

 

In this application, she forged my signature, and the signature of people who 'witnessed' it.

 

I spoke to my solicitor this morning, who said it was a very serious situation.

 

My thoughts at the moment are that I do not wish to be burdened with this debt for another 16 years or more (it was a 20-year loan), but I have a youngster to consider in any action that I take.

 

I am wondering if this could be deemed an act of negligence by First Plus and, if so, what legal footholds that would give me.

 

I'm also trawling the net looking for any previous actions against FP, but I've not had any success yet.

 

Any suggestions would be most welcome...

 

Thanks,

 

iainm

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It depends whether or not you mind landing your wife deep in the %&$£. If you tell FP about this the police will probably become involved and would quite likely press charges against her under the Theft Act (legal eagles on the site may wish to correct me if I'm wrong on that one).

 

"I spoke to my solicitor this morning, who said it was a very serious situation."

 

I hope you were not charged for that ludicrously obvious piece of information. Make sure you are getting legal advice from someone who is an expert in this field of criminal law. You cannot rely on advice from this site to deal with a situation like this.

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POET is right; this would be a Theft Act Offence (obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception?). I don't think you will find it easy to allege that first plus were negligent here; more that they are the victims of a theft to the tune of £90k, something they will surely pursue with vigour.

 

Were the faked witness signatures those of real people or fictictious people? If they were those of real people then how easy it would be to prove a fraud will depend on where their loyalties lie.

Number of times I've asked 1st Credit for information that I stil haven't recieved... 55 as at 02/05/07 :!:

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Hi,

 

Solicitor is a family friend, so no charge for today's meeting, and he's offered to look at the application form when I get hold of a copy. I don't know if his expertise is in the criminal law field, but if not I'm sure he'd recommend someone.

 

The signatures forged were mine, and my wife's parents'.

 

As for FP...I find it hard to believe that any company would loan such a large amount of money without doing a thorough background check...not that I'm condoning criminal behaviour.

 

My loyalties...the way I'm feeling right now, they can lock her up and throw away the key!! The more I think about it, the more I really don't like the idea of having this burden until I'm 50.

 

Thanks...I'll pursue professional advice. I've sent FP a letter requesting a copy of all information they hold about me/us under the data protection act.

 

Cheers,

 

iainm

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Iain - just be aware that, as it's her Parents signatures she forged, they might well back her up in court - they will not be happy about it and they may never forgive her... but they may well back her up anyway. Which means it'll be your word against the word of your Wife and her parents.

 

I think that the involvement of the Police is unavoidable if you want to pursue the line that you were not involved in this. Also, I think you should abandon any thoughts of implicating FP in the deception; through negligence or otherwise. They have followed procedures which they follow in millions of cases without any problem whatever - to suggest that those procedures are flawed because someone misused and abused them would fall flat on it's face.

 

Finally, you have to bite the bullet and get legal advice immediately from a paid and insured solicitor. It's unavoidable - and even if your friend IS qualified in this area, don't use him - it SCREAMS "conflict of interest" and the prosecution will use that to influence the jury if it comes to criminal court.

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Hi,

 

I discovered last night that, in July 2004, my wife applied for a First Plus loan of £75K + £15K 'insurance', secured against our house for which we have a joint mortgage.

 

In this application, she forged my signature, and the signature of people who 'witnessed' it.

 

I spoke to my solicitor this morning, who said it was a very serious situation.

 

My thoughts at the moment are that I do not wish to be burdened with this debt for another 16 years or more (it was a 20-year loan), but I have a youngster to consider in any action that I take.

 

I am wondering if this could be deemed an act of negligence by First Plus and, if so, what legal footholds that would give me.

 

I'm also trawling the net looking for any previous actions against FP, but I've not had any success yet.

 

Any suggestions would be most welcome...

 

Thanks,

 

iainm

 

I am no solicitor, but I doubt this would stand up as an act of negligence by FP. A secured loan was taken out on your home... why would FP want to investigate further when your house was offered as security for that loan ? Presumably, the money would have been paid into your wife's bank account and as a joint mortgagee, they would see no problem with that because your sig. was (allegedly) on the doc. as well as hers.

 

IMHO, although it's a horrible truth to face, this is your wife's doing.... and not FP. What you do from here depends on the strength of your marriage. Think long and hard.... because once you start, there will be no going back.

 

Good luck...

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Sorry, but time for getting the police I thinks!

 

Forget any emotional blackmail! This is serious fraud...

 

You've got to call the police! Your own title says it all, "Fraud".

 

***P1, She's forged his signature!***

 

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As a first step you should (if you haven't already) confront your wife and see if there is any money left that might settle the issue without things getting nasty. Unless she was leading the lifestyle of a footballers wife behind your back for the last 3 years chances are the cash is hidden away somewhere.

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Ian, Just reading your posting and the same has happened to me. I have been advised to get the police involved also. My debt is slightly smaller £45k with natwest and £20k with HFC. I have cooperated with both lenders but need the docs relating to the loans before the police will act. So far all they have done is threaten to take me to court over the debt!

 

Its a bit gutting as I have lost everything job, marriage, home etc and the ex wife is lording it in a house she clearly must have made a significant deposit on before the mortgage.

 

I have two added complications which may or may not affect the situation. Firstly she had a mental breakdown before she started obtaining the money and secondly it looks like the money was paid into our joint account. I'm one of these old fashioned and obviously gullible chaps who was happy with the ex wife getting me a weekly allowance from the cashpoint and was unaware of the problems until it was too late

 

All the Best

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