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YB has offered to pay charges + court fees but not intrest. Undecided on accepting or taking this Pain in the A@$E bank to court.

 

Liam

 

Only you can decide what is best for you. Personally I am holding out as I have had a similar offer, but the interest is over £1200 for my case, and there is no way that I am letting them off that. Yes they are a pain int the a@$e, but they are deliberately doing it to put you off going for your full entitlement as I see it. It saves them money after all, but if you need the money at the moment it is a lot to turn down. Never thought I would turn down over £3000, but I have, TWICE.:eek:

 

To me it is worth it, but only you can decide what is right for you.

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I am going to hold out. Thanks.

 

Recieved a letter yesterday offering to pay for the bank charges plus charges on VISA(seperate case) and court fees but no intrest. They wanted an answer by noon of today!!!!

 

While I was at work they contacted my home??? They would not say who it was only that they would contact me at work(Thank goodness for 1471). What do you make of that?

 

1 week to court.

 

Liam

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That is a new one on me. Was it the legal bods? If they ring and you can record the call that would be ideal, but I suggest that if they are phoning to offer you anything less than the full amount you want, you ask them to deal with you in writing.

 

I hadn't realised that you had a court date, but it seems as though you are nearing the end of your claim.

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Thanks for the advice Caro. They haven't tried phoning since.

 

I will make a visit to the courts tommorrow for reasearch and will make sure all my documents are orderly this weekend(am not the most organised of people).

 

Any advice on attending court would be appreciated.

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Bankers draft arrived today for FULL amount.

 

Talk about last minute. Will send donation as soon as draft clears.

 

I have a court date in January for the VISA. Role on round 2.

 

Thanks to everyone.

 

Liam

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Did you get charges, costs and interest Bigz? I am just soooooooooooo jealous but pleased that your fight is over, in part at least. Many congratulations.

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Its been a while since I last posted round 2 the VISA charges looks soon to end. YB has just sent a letter to say they will pay charges and court fees but not the intrest. Am going to wait for the intrest. You would have thought they have learnt their lesson by now.

 

Merrry Christmas and a Happy New year to everyone.

 

BAH Humbug to YB.

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Recieved a cheque this morning for full amount including court fees and intrest.

 

It will certainly be a merrry Christmas for my family and I this year. Cheers to everyone for their help and donation will be sent ASAp.

 

Please could you move this thread to won cases.

 

Many thanks Liam

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Wow bigz. What a star! Well done. It just goes to prove YB will pay interest if you hold out.

 

What prompted them to do this. Did you have an imminent court date?

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Thanks guys. Caro court date was set for next week. The first case they sent the cheque with only 2 days to court action. They were even resorting to frantic phone calls to say the cheque was on its way. Funny when I phoned them back with one day to go, in order to agree in ending the court action. The lady on the other line had the nerve to claim she would make sure the lawyer and witness would not attend court the next day(Yeah right!!).

 

Hopefully this will encourage more people to hang on eleviate(edit) every penny out of these people(edit).

 

Good luck to all and a Happy and prosperous New Year

 

Liam

 

PS Survey and donation to be sent soon

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