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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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my cars poo poo'd by this petrol prob im gonna claim for me petrol the

repairs a bunch of flowers for be brothers gf for lending me a car as its cheaper than me

claiming for a hire car you reckon i can claim for lost time going to the garage phone calls

and writing the letter lol

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That post made little sence.

Regarding the petrol, it was tested and did meet to EU standards, so the retailers selling it, did sell a legal product. If you purchased from tesco they are offering to pay for the repairs to the car.

Depending on the retailer on question, will vary the result, you can try and send a letter to them asking for reimbursment of repairs, and if you can prove that the breakdown affected your work or incurred additional costs that were necessary you could include those in the letter.

Whilst it may be painful for you, it is also painful for the retailer, they didn't go out and chuck lots of silicon in petrol for fun.

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It was tested but the reason they did not spot the problem was because they were checking for things that were present rather than looking for things that should not have been in it at first. This was why Tesco et al issued statements saying they had had the petrol tested and it was fine etc once TS got invovlved and tested it properly looking for more "exotic" elements that should not have been present although there seems to be some debate as to whether it was silicon or silicone but I suspect thats just poor journalism.

 

Painful for Tesco who make £2bn a year profit it wont be painful to them nor the other supermarkets at all as it will barely dent their wallets and they will simply pass the costs upstream to the suppliers do you really think Tesco, Asda etc will just oh well thats ya luck I don't think so.

 

As to the OP

 

You can try to claim for anything you like they can only say no, however be reasonable they do seem to be bending over backwards since TS discovered the contamination theyre playing fair with you so try to do the same for them :)

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Of course Tesco's will offer to foot the bill for repairs etc, but bet your bottom dollar thet Tescos will then have a big claim against their supplier..

 

Tesco wont Loose out.. Its called Publicity:)

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Of course Tesco's will offer to foot the bill for repairs etc, but bet your bottom dollar thet Tescos will then have a big claim against their supplier..

 

Tesco wont Loose out.. Its called Publicity:)

 

EXACTAMUNDO!!!!

 

Tesco/Morrisons are the face of the problem and i wouldn't be surprised if the claim against the supplier is for a lot more than the claims that tesco pay out for car repairs.

They are getting good PR at the moment for saying they will pay out on claims but at the actual time of the contamination they were getting bad PR so no doubt there legal eagles will claim for damages.

In addition the supplier deserves all they get as it was a completely avoidable situation which should never have happened. A diesel additive into petrol, where are their safegaurds?

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well i think a few tesco vouchers by way of a sorry and a bunch of flowers for the person who's car ive borrowed for 10 days is more than reasonable and a damn sight cheaper than if i had hired a car.

 

and i agree about it not being painful for tesco what they pay out for repairs they make back in a day or 2 before they sue the arse off their supplier!

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Believe me it will be thir supplier that will end up paying Big time for this cock up..Thats the way Tesco work..

Lloyds TSB -PPI - Full refund . 05/09/06 :D:p (As Seen on TV) :p

Halifax settled in Full.. :D 22/09/06

TSB First Claim SETTLED IN FULL 19/10/06 :D

Second Claim to Lloyds TSB - Settled in Full

Firstplus - early settlement interest charges - Challenged the use of the rule of 78 - SETTLED IN FULL 12/1/07

PPI - GE Money / Purpleloans / Firstplus - Now Settled after 1 year long hard fight.

 

 

 

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Believe me it will be thir supplier that will end up paying Big time for this cock up..Thats the way Tesco work..

 

Rightly so in my opinion, whilst not being a lover of Tesco, at the end of the day it was their supplier who messed up. Therefore they are the ones who in the end will be footing the bill for all of this.

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I have just had it confirmed to me by Tesco Claims that I will not be recompensed for the garage bill of £820 (2 x o2 sensors, filter, fuel, etc) because I am one of those people that don't bother keeping receipts and only pay by cash, no club card!! no credit card!! Just faith in a large company to supply a product as stated i.e. fuel fuel nothing but fuel. We have been informed there is no recourse to take this any further, however, I will be boycotting Tesco's (and all my friends who use them) even though this will mean myself and the wife having to travel further to shop and refuel.

 

According to the Claims Representative and we have spoken to many of them, all with a different story, I am the first one they have heard of that has no proof of purchase, I find this hard to believe.

 

We was also informed by the claims rep' that it was not down to them to prove

liability, this is contrary to an article I read on a legal forum, who is correct?

 

This is not only bad PR on Tesco's part but false economy, i.e. 4 or 5 shopping trips with a few fuel fill ups would have recouped the compensation amount but now they will lose my custom.

 

One other thing, its been mentioned about getting the cctv footage, unfortunately I have been informed that cctv is kept on a 2 week loop so will have been erased and is also covered by the Data Protection Act, which is convenient for them. It shows little forethought on their behalf.

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Batanbowl - I take it that you have been speaking to GAB - Tescos' loss adjusters.

 

The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate your case, i.e. you purchased petrol from Tesco and here is evidence.

 

I have a claim against Tesco too, but I have the contaminated petrol receipt and I am awaiting the outcome:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/garage-services/75541-contaminated-fuel.html

 

I would not give up yet, they need to be pushed harder, write a letter before action to Tesco's head office setting down your position. Have a go at one - if you post it up I will have a look at it.

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i succesfully claimed from asda and have just been told tesco will also pay me out plus 150 quid compensation i claimed off both seems they are not cross referencing and i was just lucky i bought petrol off both in the affected time and areas! im gonna try get compensation off asda too now! so far im 320 up on my original claim!

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Nice work Smudger - they seem to be really good, they paid me a tidy sum too:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/garage-services/75541-contaminated-fuel.html

 

I did not read the post properly initially, it is not correct to claim twice, I thought you have two separate lots of damage on two vehicles.

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i succesfully claimed from asda and have just been told tesco will also pay me out plus 150 quid compensation i claimed off both seems they are not cross referencing and i was just lucky i bought petrol off both in the affected time and areas! im gonna try get compensation off asda too now! so far im 320 up on my original claim!

 

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i succesfully claimed from asda and have just been told tesco will also pay me out plus 150 quid compensation i claimed off both seems they are not cross referencing and i was just lucky i bought petrol off both in the affected time and areas! im gonna try get compensation off asda too now! so far im 320 up on my original claim!

 

This is called fraud.

 

There is no basis in law for you to make a profit on a compensation claim - it is designed to put you back into the same position you were before the event.

 

In actual fact, O2 sensors are lifed items and therefore everybody who has been compensated for replacement actually has achieved slight betterment.

 

Since neither Tesco nor Morrison will be footing the bill at the end of the day, you had better pray that the petrol company don't cross reference or you could find the BiB on your doorstep.

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That is a good point, Asda's and Tesco's insurers who face primary liability will using subrogation rights go after Vopac (I think this is where the fault ultimately lies) and all the claims will be consolidated.

 

It is therefore possible that any duplication will be picked up then. Not worth it for a few hundred pounds.

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and ultimately the price of petrol will rise again.

 

ISNT THIS THE SAME REASON WHY WE ALL PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR CAR AND HOME INSURANCE

 

 

UMMMMMMM.......................YEP ITS FRAUD

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