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    • I've had a brief look over the thread and I see that there principle point is that he didn't take out insurance. Your answer to this is very simple – that it is absurd that you are required to pay to protect them against their own negligence or criminality of their employees or the people who are acting for them – in this case, Hermes.Your point here is that any requirement that a customer is required to pay extra to protect against the breach of contract is unfair within the meaning of the unfair terms provisions of the Consumer Rights Act. Please have a read of the unfair terms provisions of the Consumer Rights Act. In In particular, after you have read the sections within the act itself, get a schedule two and you will see examples of unfair terms. These are nonexhaustive which means that they are simply examples and lots of others can be added. An important point is that it forms a significant imbalance between your interests and their interests. They are using a standard form contract which is nonnegotiable. There is no competition because all the courier industry are doing this so there is no opportunity for you to go elsewhere and get a different type of deal. You will need to point out to the defendant – through the mediator – that included in the unfair terms provisions of the Consumer Rights Act is a provision that gives the court the power – in fact a duty – on its own initiative to examine the fairness or otherwise of any term. Point out to the defendant that if they want to go to court then you are happy about it. That you will then raise the question of unfairness to the judge and also you will invite the judge to look at the entirety of the contract and to pronounce on the fairness or otherwise of the contractual terms. Tell the defendant that you expect that the judge will decide unequivocally that a term of the contract which requires the customer to pay extra to protect themselves against the service providers breach of contract is grossly unfair – and in fact it is ridiculous. Basically they are saying "pay us to deliver your goods – and pay us extra if you don't want us to lose them."   Explain to the defendant that you are fully aware that this is a culture within the courier industry which has developed over 30 or 40 years or more but it's not acceptable and that when you get a judgement in your favour which confirms that the term is unfair, (as will surely happen) that you will then make sure that copies of the judgement find their way all over the Internet including social media that is concerned specifically with complaints against the courier industry and then the game will be up for the loss of them. One the mediator to tell the defendant that once you get this judgement, not only will people be claiming for ongoing lost items, but they will also be claiming retrospectively for legitimate claims which have been rejected on the basis of this unfair term. Make it clear to the mediator – that they should tell the defendant that you're not dealing with very much money here – and you are prepared to risk it all in order to go to court and to demonstrate this principle. If the mediator says that you should compromise then you should tell the mediator that if the defendant pays up in full – including costs and interest – that they will then be spared the problem of going to court and getting a judgement against them which will result in the loss of millions of pounds in the future. Tell the mediator that this is the benefit to the defendant and you are not prepared to hand them any further benefit if it means sacrificing a single penny of your claim. Tell the defendant to take it or leave it – you are happy either way.   It is very important that the defendant understands that you don't care either way whether you settle now mediation or goes to court. The defendant as a huge amount to lose if it goes to court. You have very little to lose  
    • Firstly I am disabled and have brain fog so can forget anything.  Today I went online to check when the MOT is due as just had to renew my car insurance and know it comes quickly after that. I was shocked to see my car was flagged as NOT TAXED.  I have had disability tax for years so dont even have to pay. After ringing DVLA I eventually found out papers had been sent to my old house which I left 3 years ago. With the stress of moving etc I never changed the car address but did change the address on my licence as that is correct.   Now I am worried I may have picked up a speeding ticket sometime in the 3 years and also maybe recently on a day trip to London (2 miles too fast coming out a tunnel). The old house is 150 miles away so cant pop in and no idea who lives there now. Thats how I got caught out with tax as they sent the paperwork there to renew. The lady renewed the tax easily on the computer for me which I was so grateful for and backdated it to 1 Feb. Can anyone tell me how I can find out if there are any tickets out there in my name that I know anything about please? I have had a really awful week with so many problems and this is now really making me feel sick so dont want to worry for months to catch up with me.   Thanks  
    • Presumably you have received your own NIP/s172 request after the lease company identified you as the person the car is leased to?   First thing to say is that, regardless of any questions over the date of the first NIP, you must still reply to your own NIP/s172 within the time limit given otherwise you are committing an entirely separate and more serious offence than any speeding infringement.  If you were the driver you should nominate yourself.   You need to be careful arguing that the first NIP was not sent out in time.  Note that it is only the first NIP that is subject to the 14 day limit, and that NIP needs to go to the Registered Keeper.  There is no time limit on subsequent NIPs.   So are you 100% certain that your lease company is the registered keeper and do you know that for a fact?  Please note that the registered keeper of lease vehicles is often not the lease company, but a finance company.   If the police are saying that the first NIP was sent to the RK within the time limit, you can be 99.99999% certain that they will have evidence proving that fact.  Assuming it was sent out first-class, there is a legal presumption that it was delivered two working days after posting, unless the addressee can prove it was never received.  So if the police are saying the first NIP was sent out within 12 days, the RK would have to prove it was never received within 14 days to provide a defence.  As you might imagine, that is very difficult to prove otherwise everybody would claim it.  Unfortunately, "reminder" NIPs are usually not marked as such and may be indistinguishable from the original.   So you need to confirm (preferably by sight of a copy of the actual V5C document as staff of lease companies do not always know) who the Registered Keeper is, and when they recived the first NIP.  If it was received after 14 days can they prove that fact (eg by a date received stamp and an appropriate system for dealing with mail received) and can they prove that they didn't receive an earlier NIP?   Hope that makes sense!  If it doesn't another poster called Man in the Middle will clarify what I 've not explained well or got wrong.
    • Simply confirming no mediation and the claim is proceeding to allocation.   Andy
    • Thanks for the swift response. Will continue to read around.   I have a date of march 10.
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    • Hi @BankFodder
      Sorry for only updating you now, but after your guidance with submitting the claim it was pretty straight forward and I didn't want to unnecessarily waste your time. Especially with this guide you wrote here, so many thanks for that
      So I issued the claim on day 15 and they requested more time to respond.
      They took until the last day to respond and denied the claim, unsurprisingly saying my contract was with Packlink and not with them.
       
      I opted for mediation, and it played out very similarly to other people's experiences.
       
      In the first call I outlined my case, and I referred to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 as the reason to why I do in fact have a contract with them. 
       
      In the second call the mediator came back with an offer of the full amount of the phone and postage £146.93, but not the court costs. I said I was not willing to accept this and the mediator came across as a bit irritated that I would not accept this and said I should be flexible. I insisted that the law was on my side and I was willing to take them to court. The mediator went back to Hermes with what I said.
       
      In the third call the mediator said that they would offer the full amount. However, he said that Hermes still thought that I should have taken the case against Packlink instead, and that they would try to recover the court costs themselves from Packlink.
       
      To be fair to them, if Packlink wasn't based in Spain I would've made the claim against them instead. But since they are overseas and the law lets me take action against Hermes directly, it's the best way of trying to recover the money.
       
      So this is a great win. Thank you so much for your help and all of the resources available on this site. It has helped me so much especially as someone who does not know anything about making money claims.
       
      Many thanks, stay safe and have a good Christmas!
       
       
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Deller, did you take your Cap One to MCOL/N1 stage or did they pay up before you got that far?

 

mickkane have you filed on MCOL now or have they still got time? We have 2 accounts with Cap One (now closed) they told me they were looking into my 'compliant' and told my wife they had refunded the difference between 20 and 12 qid to her credit card.. naturally ive written to refuse that partial payment and moved to LBA on on both, but now singularily rather than seperate accounts.. Makes me laugh, them crediting an account thats closed..

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Some people have amended their spreadsheets to include new charges. If you do go to MCOL / N1 with the new amounts added, make sure you send an amended copy to Capital One..

 

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Thanks so im going to file my claim on mcol on wednesday, will i send a new list of charges to capital one before i do that.

 

I rang them today to ask whats happening and they said there is a letter on the way offering £392.

 

Will I have to send a letter of thanks I will accept this as part payment even if the letter arrives after the mcol claim has been made.

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You should accept any offer as partial payment only.. and that you will pursue them for the rest. There are Rejection letters in the Bank Templates Library. There are some links below to guide you.

 

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AQ Guide to Completion

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Banking Code Website

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Remember: The Ark was built by amateurs-The Titanic by professionals.

 

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If your claim is successful, please donate 5% so that it can continue to help others.

 

Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, please seek qualified professional legal Help.

 

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Ok im due to file on MCOL tomorrow and have rang capital one again to see whats happening as still have heard nothing.

 

They told me they sent out a letter on the 15th march with an offer of £392 but it has still not arrived. They say they will send out another but will take about 2 weeks.

 

What would you all do, go ahead and file the claim or wait, just I am not sure what to do if after I have filed for the full amount I recieve the offer, can I refuse for it to be credited after filing for what would be more than what they owe me if they pay me this partial amount.

 

Hope this makes sense.

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Ok just this minute filed my claim on MCOL, felt quite nervous paying all that money, anyway should get it all back hopefully.

 

Might need some help as I go along from now though, how long does this all normally take after filing your claim.

 

Thanks everyone and good luck

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Once they've acknowledged your claim, which you can check on the MCOL web site, they have 28 days from that date. I got paid on day 21 (But that was Nationwdie) so they were cutting it close.

 

Cap One may be different ive heard they pay up pretty quickly after MCOL has been filed and im in the line waiting to file MCOL for them. So your about a week ahead of me.

 

Until then there is nothing else you can do except for read threads in relation to the A & Q that sometimes get sent out. I never got an A & Q with the Nationwide because my claim wasnt complicated. I might get one with Capital One though because there are 'other matters' outstanding.:-D

 

Sit back now, and wait then spend it all and have fun ;)

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With my claim against Cap One they did settle fairly quickly, I filed through MCOL and the money was recieved before the AQ's were returned so shouldn't be too long for you now me thinks.

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Hi everyone, filed MCOL on wednesday and have today received a notice of issue from Northampton County Court saying the notice will be deemed served on the 3 April and the defendant has until the 17 April to reply.

 

I have also received the offer of £392 in writing from Capital One today so this offer is after I have filed my claim, its the usual stuff with a part to send back if I accept this offer and will accept the complaint as closed.

I will obviously not be accepting this offer but I have seen a lot of people writing that they will accept it as part payment.

As I have already filed my claim would it be ok to send the letter declining the payment and advising them that I have already submited my claim to MCOL.

 

Thanks for any help.

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Yes you need to send a copy of your schedule to Northampton ****y Court, make sure your case number is with it and send a brief letter asking for it to be included with that case number as you filed online.. Hope that helps

 

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Send a copy of your schedule to the court with this cover letter,

 

 

 

 

 

 

(YOUR ADDRESS)

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Court Manager

Money Claim Online

Northampton County Court

21-27 St Katherine’s Street

Northampton

NN1 2LH

 

(DATE)

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

(YOU) –v- (BANK)

Claim No: ********

 

I have today requested the issue of a County Court claim via the Moneyclaim online service, details as above.

 

Please find enclosed a schedule of the money taken from me by the defendant bank by way of charges, along with interest claimed at the annual rate of 8% pursuant to section 69 of the County Court Act. The interest in addition to the amount in charges equates to the total amount of my claim, namely £(AMOUNT).

 

I respectfully request that the enclosed schedule should be attached with the particulars of my claim.

 

 

Yours Faithfully

 

(YOU)

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Thanks Deller, thats the letter I sent with 2 copies of my statements, do I just wait now until I recieve a letter from there solicitors and then also send them a copy.

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Yes Mick thats correct.

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Hiya

On my claim against cap one I didn't send a schedule of charges to the court just to capone, but it can't do any harm. They acknowledged the claim and said they would defend within a few days of service, but then sent a full settlement offer about a week prior to the defense needing to be submitted. IE within the 28 days. They don't seem to get as far as the AQ's, but you need to actually claim in court to get them to settle. Seems stupid cos its costing them loads in court fees, but perhaps they think it outweighs the people who drop out because they won't go to the court stage.

Good luck :)

ali

Btw I am no expert just give notes based on what I have read on here and other forums/sites, plus my own experiences and investigations.

 

All ccj's now dropped off file, 2 yrs to go to clear file.

All old debts either settled or made unenforcable.

 

RBS MPP-Full offer at 8 wks from first complaint

RBS Overdraft loanguard-full offer at 8 wks from complaint

Citicard ppi-with FOS finally paid 8 months after offer through FOS!

Capital one x2- with FOS

Monument ppi-with FOS

aqua x2 ppi-partialled settled still pushing for the rest

Black horse ppi-offers made and accepted except for one early loan they say no info held-still pushing for payment

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Fingers crossed for you Mick!!!

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Hi recieved my acknowledgment of service today, there are 3 boxes on the form

 

1 I intend to defend all of the claim X

2 I intend to defend part of the claim

3 I intend to contest jurisdiction

 

I take it by ticking box 1 that is there notice that they are defending.

 

What do I do now, it has an address for there legal department on it saying documents about this claim should be sent there.

 

Do I have to send anything there yet.

 

Also I have recieved again an offer of £392 from Cap 1 today, I take it I can just ignore this as I have already sent them a rejection letter having already filed the claim on MCOL before receiving the offer, thanks for the help

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