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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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My Bank, TSB sent their AQ nearly 2 weeks before the deadline date, how worrying is that. They have not sent me a copy though.

 

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cases won

28th July Single Claim for bank charges against LTSB, £6,800 WON with CI to date of Judgement

 

18th July Joint Claime against LTSB £7,800 WON with CI to date of Judgement.

 

 

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Lattie, the court has just told me that I don't need to fill in a form for judgement - they say because the deadline has passed the judgement will be handed down automatically - any thoughts on that?

I think I'll give them a week and maybe in the meantime phone the delectable Debbie and let her know?;)

 

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new territory for me - i'm following you........

i just put my limited knowledge all in one place - you guys are filling in the blanks for us.

why let debbie know. if your stuff is in a pile - they will get to it whenever - i see the judgment as a possible preferred option as there will be no questions over overdraft interest or old charges or whatever - you will get the lot - the flip side is it may (or may not) take a little longer as you are dealing through the courts. as i say - you and your buddies are our shining beacon - after this - i'll know more how to advise peeps!

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Hi Lateralus.

i am going to press your scales time after time as I do think this is realy a good thread and your explanation in post #1 is brill.

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28th July Single Claim for bank charges against LTSB, £6,800 WON with CI to date of Judgement

 

18th July Joint Claime against LTSB £7,800 WON with CI to date of Judgement.

 

 

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you're most welcome - is the tsb forum as crazy as this one?

nope... it hasn't got you in it! :-D

 

Remember, its actually best to try not to get a win by default.

You are better trying to ring debbie and get them to put in a defense, (although this is something that goes against my intense will to get the bailiffs in on hsbc...:-D) as a default judgement normally results in loads more delays. The judge WANTS to get this case heard, not won on a technicality.

 

take a look at this.....

 

default judgement

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well, crusher, that is a big fat kick in the teeth! i don't like that at all!

ok, i've read it. and there's you telling us to tell peeps not to bug them - it seems like they should be doing more to get an offerout of dg before it gets to this point. what do you suggest? - with the amount of claims going through - those who have filed aq's and dg has not filed theirs - get in touch with dg to remind them that the aq is due?, not call so soon to the courts to see if they have?, what?????? i'm in a quandry.

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I am with you Lattie doesn't sound good to me either makes me wanna spend the week in India sending emails to DG pointing out that they have failed to file an AQ and maybe they had better give me a decent offer.

Guide to claiming back your bank charges

 

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well, crusher, that is a big fat kick in the teeth! i don't like that at all!

ok, i've read it. and there's you telling us to tell peeps not to bug them - it seems like they should be doing more to get an offerout of dg before it gets to this point. what do you suggest? - with the amount of claims going through - those who have filed aq's and dg has not filed theirs - get in touch with dg to remind them that the aq is due?, not call so soon to the courts to see if they have?, what?????? i'm in a quandry.

Nah nah, not at all.

The thing here is balance.

OK, the AQ hasnt gone in, or defense not gone in, then a reminder or two is OK. "Bombardment" is not.

A reminder might get them to shift.

Thousands of letters, faxes, emails from the same person will just choke up the system...

I have rung DG myself twice, sometimes it's required.

This is about trying to get you guys your money as fast as possible... DG are getting slower and slower.

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ok, i've been thinking what to put in response to this info - and i know several of you are watching what's going on here - that was my intent - to have a place where those who have filed could kick ideas around for this new place several of you now find yourselves - post aq filing......

 

if you've been following this exchange with crusher - although some of it is one lisavp's thread - you will know i'm questioning whether a default judgment is preferable to an offer. i have concluded that an offer is def preferable to a default judgment. and with that in mind. i think once you know that dg hasn't filed their aq - another contact with them is in order.

i won't do a template i'm not sure how to word it just yet. but i think it is important to send another letter - special delivery maybe this time so they have to sign for it.

stating to them your name,

account no,

claim no and

filing date.

 

then perhaps: I see that as of xx/xx/07 (latest date you've talked to the court) you have not filed the Allocation Questionaire in this case which was due on xx/xx/07. Please find enclosed a copy of my Allocation Questionaire and also another copy of my schedule of charges relating to this claim. I hope to hear from you very soon so that a speedy resolution to this claim might be achieved. I am sure that the courts would approve of our settling this matter without their intervention. I look forward to hearing from you.

(then maybe:) I would remind you that with the filing of the allocation questionaire, I will now require the addition of that fee to my claim.

Sincerely,

 

SEE LATEST DRAFT OF LETTER IN POST 1 - LAST EDITED 11/3 8:45 PM.

 

ok, what do you think crusher - and maybe address it to debs as she seems to be the name on the acknow. and always says she isn't dealing with it when anyone calls - so, methinks she is higher up. if she has to sign for these letters - she might spur the others along? good idea? bad idea? what do you think? if it looks ok - i will put it up in the first post. it's not harrassment - we'd only be advising them to send a letter once they know dg hasn't filed their aq - maybe a week or so after it is due.

comments - or in your speak - tear it apart? anybody?

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Debate is great, thats what this place is for! :-D

 

Yes, this is a gentle nudge that hopefully will get results and gee them up a bit.

As for addressing it to Debs, I suppose this might help, although I think one of her "minions" will probable open it anyway :-D

 

If only we could be a fly on the wall in that office....

 

 

would make life a darned sight easier!

 

thanks latty (and everybody here on HSBC) for all your imput, very much appreciated :-D

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TSB are crazier in my opinion, Their taking me to court would you believe. How low down can they get. maybe a thread could be started for the defendents. but with my look I would be the only one posting on it. alongside all the banking insitutes. Now that would be sad :(

 

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cases won

28th July Single Claim for bank charges against LTSB, £6,800 WON with CI to date of Judgement

 

18th July Joint Claime against LTSB £7,800 WON with CI to date of Judgement.

 

 

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looks good to me Lattie :)

 

you could always make them an offer too of course, something like:

 

in order to more speedily resolve this matter, i am willing to accept the sum of £xxxx. (rounded down to nearest pound) I do not agree to waive my rights in respect of any other actions, nor do I agree to a clause of confidentiality.

i dont know that addressing to anyone in particular will speed things up..i just addressed it to whomevers name appeared on their last letter.

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I agree with Liz

 

I would suggest saying "I am mindful of the vast number of claims you are currently dealing with" etc, also the counter offer is important especially if you have received an offer marked "save as to costs" , therefore, I would suggest " in an attempt to bring this to a reasonable conclusion", as reasonable is the key, it is highly unlikely that they will accept your offer, but you will have been seen to have made a reasonable attempt.

 

The game always changes "CMG" constantly moving goalposts.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

 

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OK, GUYS - THOSE WHO FILED THEIR AQ 1-2 WEEKS AGO AND READ THIS WHEN I FIRST POSTED IT................

i have changed my mind (crush changed it for me!) about seeking a default judgment in haste............read a few posts up to see why and then read my newly added part of post 1.... the nudging letter to dg.

hope this helps.

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Try and avoid looking desperate.

This is not a quick process, you need a degree of patience.

Try and relax Mitcheyboo, it will work out for you. If you had seen as many claims win as I have you would feel the same :-D

i do tend to agree with crusher if you need to contact dg keep it to a minimum as it does look kind of desperate to keep calling and we all know the offer will come at some stage i dont think they rush off and get your file everytime anyone calls as anybody who has called will note they always say "we have your breakdown and will be in contact" all the claims are dealt with in time order so i feel it best to wait our turn and not get stressed out over it, also you could be cheeky and ask for your daily interest as its taken so long!

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Lateralus, thanks for directing me here just as I was poised to submit a request for judgement! Definitely some food for thought.

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HSBC £4,528

Began process with S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) on 5/7/06

Recieved payment on 21/4/07

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OK, here's another little letter -

if you are claiming for overdraft interest (you will surely know if you are by this point), lots of offers have used this new tactic - "we are at a loss to understand"...why you could possibly want us to pay overdraft interest - bong thinks maybe they don't know what it is (maybe foreign bank workers???) i think it's a stall. regardless, if you have claimed for o/d interest - you may want the idea in this little notice in a letter to them - maybe combined with a nudge from post 1 (with or without an offer added).

 

 

DG Solicitors

12 Calthorpe Road

Edgbaston

Birmingham

B15 1QZ

 

Dear Sir,

 

(Your Name) -v- (Bank)

Claim No: ********

Date Issued: xx/xx/xx

 

Please find enclosed a copy of my schedule of charges relating to the above claim.

 

I understand you have a policy of initially rejecting claims for overdraft interest. However, should this be the case after you have reviewed my claim, you should be aware that my claim for overdraft interest has been meticulously calculated and double checked. It only ever relates to the cumulative charges within the overdrawn balance of the account at the point that the overdraft interest was debited.

 

If it is that in your view the interest is not claimable, I am prepared to discuss this with yourseves and the judge in court.

 

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

 

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

it's just a nice little statement to throw in at some point.

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I haven't had time to read through all of this thread, so I apologise if what I am about to ask is already covered...

 

Up until I noticed this thread I thought that it would be best not to get in touch with DG to chase them for their AQ, just for the simple fact that if they don't complete it then it is only going to go in my favour and maybe even a quicker result of getting back the money.

 

Can someone just clarify why this is not a good idea and why I should chase them for their AQ. I have also had an offer of settlement as well, and have not contacted them to say that I decline their offer. Is it best if I do do this?

 

Thanks :)

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back up to post 58.

 

why would you not respond to an offer (don't understand that at all!) if it's a yes, you need to say yes, please and if it's a not you need to say no, thank you else it will just sit there til it grows whiskers. (i hate to say this - credit it to the mother in me - but a little common courtesy never goes amiss (i'm very old so take that in the vein intended - a gentle push)).

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