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    • Sorry.. Im not sure if I totally understand what you meant that there is another assessment outstanding? If you mean the fixing of the ceiling at the extension (not the paint), T & D only does painting so he could not provide me with the quote for fixing the ceiling at the extension. I have one painter who can also fix the ceiling at the extension for me, and he will mention about the ceiling at the extension in his quote. He will specify how much the painting for the walls and ceilings would be, and how much the fixing of the ceiling at the extension would be. I have also booked a plasterer who has promised to come tomorrow afternoon to access the ceiling and give me a quote for fixing it. Attached is the updated quote from T & D attached in the report & quote email. Quote from T & D.pdf
    • Hi Darrius. Answering your question, I hope. That's because as the law stands it should   The VAT act says that if the business is registered has a turnover above the prescribed limit and  that income for busines, they must pay VAT on their income, offset by any payment of output TAX by the person he provides the service for. This applies to the judement debtor as you say. I am sure that this meant money taken initially by the the HCEO when they were originally approached by the creditor or items acquired by the Hceo in the employ of the court. However when the under sherif  who is not an employee of the court but a self employed busines  man takes over the enforcement for "valuable consideration"   The fees become his income and he is responsible for any tax calculated on that income. Nothing new here. We all pay VAT and we all cannot claim it back, that is unless we are a registered business. The only way to get around this is to Zero rate enforcement fees   This was explained as being the case before 2014, I see nothing since, that alters the situation. Other than changing VAT requirements in the Act., as in Magistrates court and Council.tax enforcement   I have tried many times to get authoritave information from sources who are usually very helpful, why is that? Answer on a post card please.   Peter                        
    • Thank you for the reply, I will follow your advice! I have seen one or two threads of the car park company when I was googling around, on PPP.com. (Cant put the real name lol) I will get some pictures of signs and a google map layout of the car park tomorrow. Thanks again.
    • "To Eradicate this issue on the Ceilings &  walls, T&D Decorators would recommend a Durable Acrylic Matt on the walls and a Vinyl Matt paint based on what Mr X has stated he requires,(  IE a wipeable product ), Standard preparation required  The  redecoration of 4 nr bedrooms, hall stairs and landing, bathroom, toilets, living room and conservatory, kitchen and dining area in two coats of a product agreed with Mr X will be £3,900.00 plus V A T, Protect all new glossed woodwork with masking tape, prepare all walls to receive 2 full coats of a product agreed with the Client, protection to all New carpet & Vinyl included with this cost quotation  T&D Decorators Limited have submitted a full quotation as instructed by Mr X" ^This is in the pdf file I uploaded, would this be suffice?
    • well done on your excellent work so far in following the sticky to the letter   dont appeal    bottom line is ignore everything until/unless you get a letter of claim   this appears to be the 1st time we've met this carpark  if you are near lots of photos of the signs and their small print etc as well as their layout would be good if you can. particularly what warning signs are there before joe public enters and can thus dcide not to park there at all.     dx    
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(I take it this is the court bundle that I have to prepare?)


Yes See here:


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Court Bundle - Examples of Witness Statement, Document list etc

Examples of Witness Statements / Disclosure by List / Draft Directions / Case Summary


So what happens about what I have just submitted

It will be added to your claim file


and why have they made this decision without considering it?


It would still have been the same decision
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WON!!!! :D

With slight complication :(


Received this letter today from ****:


'We refer to the above matter and confirm that our Client will be settling your claim within five working days by depositing the sum of £1056.34 (inclusive of interest and fees), into your Bank Account.

You are advised at this stage that by our Client meeting your Claim on this occasion, this is not to be treated in any way as an admission of liablility. This is merely an attempt to resolve the matter amicably between the parties concerned.

We therefore trust you shall write to the Horsham County Court to confirm that the claim has been settled once the funds have been received and provide this office with a copy of the letter for our Client's records.


You may note from previous posts on this thread that when I originally submitted my court claim I calculated the interest wrongly applying flat 8% interest instead of contractual and swindled myself out of about £150 in the process! I had already received a General Form of Judgment or Order from the court basically requesting I resubmit my Schedule of Charges so I did so showing the new amended interest amount and submitted a covering letter pointing out that I had specified in my original claim that I was claiming s.69 County Courts Act interest but had merely calculated the amount wrong. This was copied to both the Court and ****. The day after I posted it I received notification from the Court that the claim had been allocated to the Small Claims Track and I should prepare my paperwork for my defense. They obviously sent the notification out before they received my new Schedule of Charges and since then I have received nothing from them to say that it has not been accepted.


I called **** today and pointed out that I had resubmitted my Schedule of Charges with an updated interest amount and copied it to themselves and the Court. I also told them that the Court had not rejected my new Schedule (technically true as they have not contacted me) and that they actually needed to pay me £1198.12. The chap I spoke to at **** said this had probably been forwarded onto Lloyds and as they had agreed to settle the claim 'they would probably pay the additional amount'.


Technically it's my own fault for putting the wrong amount and if I am honest I am quite relieved it's been settled without the ordeal of going to court. Do I take the pain and accept what they have offered as it was my mistake? Or should I write and say I will accept the offer providing they pay the full amount as per my updated Schedule? If I do this will the Court stick it's oar in and say 'hang on you can't change the amount of your claim'. Advice please? :confused:

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Oh dear - not been on the forum for a few days and just been reading all the posts on here about Lloyds having just won their first case :( .

Perhaps I should just take what they've offered and run - after all the interest thing was my mistake anyway and they have paid out most of what I wanted!

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If they have paid you the full amount as stated on the claim form plus the daily rate of interest plus fee's, then you should take it.


Submitting an amended schedule does not amend the value of the claim - you can only do that with a formal application.


Besides, you didn't "diddle yourself out of £150" by not claiming CI - you actually potentially saved yourself a court appearance.


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same as ..i agree with the others...you can only ammend the claim submitting an N244 @ £35... and then there is no guarantee the judge will allow it.... im doing that myself now for approx £900 as i failed to transfer all of the figures in the POC to the summary boxes!!! DOH !! and its a lot of extra hassle...for £150 i would leave it and take what you have!!



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Thanks for the advice everyone! Yes I agree I have accepted the offer - I am quite happy as I have just got a grand in my pocket that I wasn't sure I was going to get and avoided going to court to get it! :D




DPA letter sent 15th December 06

Bank claim and Schedule of Charges sent 23rd February 07

LBA sent 13th March 07

Court Claim through MCOL issued 30th March 07

Allocation to Small Claims Track 9th May 07

Lloyds settle in full out of court 15th May 07

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