Bailiffs Forcing Entry and Using Restraint - Please Read, Important - Deadline

[caledfwlch]

ermmm TRANSPORT OF PRISONERS :o Are certified Bailiffs collecting unsecured debt to be allowed to "Arrest" us to? :o Isnt it enough they will have legal authority to hospitalise us?

[icefall]

Logged in for the first time in ages late last night and saw this so have signed the word document petition and emailed it back, also posted on mse with a link to this thread.

 

Just found this thread about the same thing with an online petition setup and working

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-consumer-issues/65926-do-you-want-bailiffs.html

[stan5131]

Ice... excellent link.. just signed it. Cheers for your input.

[icefall]

Great Stan with any luck we may be able to get the online petition up from the 32 signatures it is at the moment...

[stan5131]

Think a few more are on there since I signed mine.

[stan5131]

Common guys, please click on the link and sign the petition.

[falcon185]

Signed it already, just checked only 40 on there at the moment, c'mon guys and gals start linking and signing

 

 

Do you want bailiffs forcing entry to YOUR HOME. If not

[stan5131]

48 signatures now

[falcon185]

JEEEEZ Stan,

are you sittin' there counting them as they sign?? pmsl

[stan5131]

Yep...... sad isnt it!!!!!

[stan5131]

50 now.......

 

54 an increasing

[falcon185]

Christ Stan, what was your previous job? watching paint dry? pmsl ;-)

[stan5131]

pmsl

 

and not a dark sheep in sight! errrrr cloud!

[stan5131]

mmmmm do you think Blacksheep has gone to pastures greener?

[falcon185]

Must be lambing ;-)

[Peterbard]

Hi

Please read this

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bailiffs/61524-baliff-petition-stop-them-5.html

 

Peter

[PriorityOne]

Crikey... I've signed so many petitions lately... I'm losing track !!

 

[PriorityOne]

Am I right in thinking they are now considering withdrawing the restraining element of the new bill?

[seylectric]

The whole lot needs scrapping. The bailiff laws are archaic anyway, this new bill puts us back in the dark ages.

 

Our basic democratic freedom is being slowly but surely eroded. We are bombarded with rules, regulations and laws at home and at work, mostly for health and safety reasons, e.g. you must get a registered installer to fit your new windows, you have no right to silence and are forced to name the driver of your car caught speeding on camera, you must sort your rubbish and put it in a certain bin, ID cards soon to be forced upon us and so on. The point is, we are becoming a state-controlled society and losing our rights.

 

The Human Rights Act says we have the right to peacefully enjoy our possessions or something like that. The HRA was introduced to protect our rights and UK plc is slowly taking them away. Something needs to change, you will always have chancers who use the system to their advantage and never pay up but we are becoming a state where everything is a crime. It was never a crime to owe money and the extortionate charges by bailiffs mean that those most in need can never repay what they owe because the charges are increasing faster than their ability to pay it off.

 

Bailiffs should be banned completely, scrap the appalling charges and give some genuine help to poorer people on how to manage their money. Murderers, druggies and paedofiles get help, why not ordinary people who's lives are being ruined by the stress of bailiffs visiting when their only "crime" is to not be able to afford to pay their bills?

 

Tonight's rant over, sorry.

[Peterbard]

The whole lot needs scrapping. The bailiff laws are archaic anyway, this new bill puts us back in the dark ages.

 

Agreed

Hi Sayelectric

 

There has been a few developments on this not he least of which is that there is another petition also on the site. Please sign both if you can the last thing that we want to happen is to create a race between the two petitions and split the support.

Also there is going to be an amendment tabled by Lord Lucas on the 20th .He wrote to me about it last week asking for support. The amendments he proposes include appointing an officer of the court to regulate Bailiff Action and handle complaints. I was not impressed by this as to my mind this kind of control has never worked on bailiffs in the past and I doubt it will work in the future.

I think we must be careful here if the government are allowed to let the law stand and throw us a bone by increasing regulation we have lost.

We must go for the complete removal of any legislation that legally permits bailiffs to enterer peoples homes without consent and use forcible restraint. There would then be no need for extra regulation.

Kind regards

Peter

[Peterbard]

Am I right in thinking they are now considering withdrawing the restraining element of the new bill?

 

Hi

 

No what has happened Is that Baroness Ashton has agreed not to present the restraint part of the bill.However this is not the same as having the section deleted as it can be slipped under the door at a future time the same way the earlier legislatin on Bailiffs was. What we need is it's complete deletion from the bill.

 

Kind regards

Peter

[PriorityOne]

A sticking plaster response from her then.... Who is Baroness Ashton anyway and why is she dealing with bailiff issues ?

 

Please forgive me if that's a thick question....

[Peterbard]

Not at all

 

Barroness Ashton is the Peer that introduced the Tribunals Court and Enforcement bill to the Lords.

She is the prime mover for making the Bill Law.

Public Bills like this one can be introduced in either the Commons or the lords but have to go through both houses before they get the queens signature and become law. This particular bill is now at the last reading at the lords and once it has passed through it will go to the commons, where it will go through the same numererous readings and reports.

This is where we must take the fight through our MPs and through the petitions.

 

 

Regards Peter

 

Kind regards Peter

[PriorityOne]

Nice lady then... ... with no idea about how debt affects those who fall upon hard times.... never likely to experience life in the real world, is she ? This was exactly the point I was trying to make to Blacksheep... that toffs/middle classes will always try to protect their own interests simply because they have the power and influence to do so.

 

Those that can't afford to pay are seen as an inconvenience that have to be dealt with... in order to protect the interests that these people cherish so much.

 

Back on my soap box again...

[Peterbard]

Nice lady then... ... with no idea about how debt affects those who fall upon hard times.... never likely to experience life in the real world, is she ? This was exactly the point I was trying to make to Blacksheep... that toffs/middle classes will always try to protect their own interests simply because they have the power and influence to do so.

 

Strangely this is axactly the point of view that Lord Beauly put to me that is why he is hopeing to have more luck in the commons where"People live closer to the reality of debt",he is the one fighting for us to get the legislation scrapped.

Kind regards

Peter

 

Peter