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Very true. After the 'legal documents are being prepared' letter then theres the 'final, final, final' letter which gives you the chance to settle at a lesser sum before action!:roll: Thats the 'were getting desperate now and really want your money' letter!!! They usually disappear then :)

 

I've an interesting new twist, the latest effort from Credit Security Ltd gives me the option to pay my balance weekly.

Good try chaps, but I'm still not paying

 

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just to update on my last post about Search UK limited or whatever they are called.

i phoned the number on the letter head to let them know i was not posting a reply recorded delivery and wasting my money as the PO said it was not on there system.

The girl at Search was all very nice and polite and said it was new?

Anyway i said it was in disoute and won't be paying as i was not the driver.

 

She said fine i will get another letter demanding a higher charge and that they won't stop. OMG! They are killing the rainforrest.

Anyway she said people use these forums and get the wrong advice. That made me laugh.

 

She said if i wasn't the driver then give her the driver details and they will stop writing to me. But i didn't i would miss there letters. i need a penpal.

 

but 10 out of 10 to her for trying as during the conversation she asked various times for the drivers details in a calm polite but firm manner.

 

i told them that they need to pass the details back to UKPC as it is in dispute, she says no their client has forwarded them my details as an unpaid debt so they must pursue. Even though i told they info they got was duff.

 

Ah well i guess Uk Search carbon footprint is quite big, don't think the government would approve.

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Mike, I think it's important for you to realise that this matter will not go away. If you believe that your charge is not payable than you must appeal through the proper channels.

 

Haha!

 

In case you you fail to notice silverradiomike, (impossible that that would be!) Realistic Parking clearly works for the PPCs and/or Mikey Mouse DCAs.

 

I trust youwill heed the majority of sensible posters here and contine to ignore their desparate pleas for money. :)

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oh good grief. ignore the post from 'realistic'. It will go away. the proper channels are Trading Stavdrads, Companies Hoise, the ICO and illegal paperwork from PPCs that breaches the Fraud act 2006 (and many do) then its the police.

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I have got the third letter from Britannia Parking company, and the letter says:

 

"Please supply the driver details within the next 7 days, or alternatively please make payment. Failure to make payment or supply driver details will result in an additional administration charge of £120 being levied, and the matter then pursued through the small claims court. As part of that process we will supply points of evidence, and request evidence details from yourself. Part of that evidence process will be a request for proff that other drivers have access and authority to use your vehicle. This could include as example details of an insurance policy and details of other vehicles in the household."

 

Can anybody help how to write back this letter? (The first letter I said I am not driver, and all the details please read Page47--935)

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"Part of that evidence process will be a request for proof that other drivers have access and authority to use your vehicle." Oh dear oh dear oh dear. yet another clown who thinks that Perky's interpretation of the RTA is valid. Complete and utter tripe from a PPC - who would have guessed it. And why on earth do they listen to the 'pepipoo challenged' Perky. I hope they don't pay too much to use his 'PPCs Only' information sharing website Welcome to PPC Carry on ignoring these buffoons but cross your fingers in the hope that they do issue real court papers - there would be much fun to be had if they did.

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Many thanks for all advice. As you know I am trying to ignore the first letter they sent to me, but I read some previous comments to say when they write to you, the best way to write back and the last letter will tell them shup up and bog off!

 

when I read all the comments, I feel most people are still worried like me, so if I stop writing back, what will they do?

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they keep sending letters until they get fed up and realise you are no longer falling for the [problem]. as you have been in contact with them you can expect a few more yet. I wonder if they will mention the 'pre-action protocols' - that always breaks me up when they do that.

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STOP writing. They have a cheek suggesting they want you to provide information on oters that will help them 'make their case' - especially since you are under no obligation to do so. If you ever get a citation to attend court, THEN it is time to act, but at the moment - your correspondence is ensuring your fast-tracked as a potential sucker and worthy of scaring. Don't be bullied!!

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It's all very funny these replies. To be honest i seem to be lucky in life where as nothing really bothers me. So UK Search can write to me as much as they want. I have given them one reply to state the case is in disoute and that they should hand it back to UKPC.

If they don't and continue to hound then that's up to them. I will be moving house soon so they can write away until their printer ink dries up.

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Guys what I need to check with you all is can you get a CCJ without actually being asked to attend any hearings?

I have ignored the final notice from UKPC and on that letter they have threatened all sorts and now the missus is worried that me not backing down is going to cause credit problems.

 

Reassurance would really help.

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Hull Lad is correct. Even if you loose, you then have 28 days to pay the judgement. If you do, no CCJ is recorded. If you don't pay in 28 days the claimant has to go back to court for a default claim and only then does it become a "CCJ"

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Hull Lad is correct. Even if you loose, you then have 28 days to pay the judgement. If you do, no CCJ is recorded. If you don't pay in 28 days the claimant has to go back to court for a default claim and only then does it become a "CCJ"

 

 

Great, thanks all - very helpful.

I am determined to beat these fools!

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so if it did go to court, and i wanted to defend - if i lost then even if i then agree to pay i could get a CCJ against me?

 

Not at all. You could ONLY get a CCJ if the court ordered you to pay, and after 21 days did not do so. The pursuer has to then ask the court for enforcement of the debt, and it is then the judgement is entered.

 

However this assumes three things;

 

1) They'll actually risk taking anyone to court (and you can insist the come to a court local to YOU) and pay the costs to raise the action.

 

2) They don't want a judge ruling aginst them if it is found that the signage, issuing notice or collection proceedures are misleading or downright dishonest.

 

3) They're in this to make money from people who will run away from strongly-worded letters, and are no better (or worse) that the school bullies of your youth - this is just a couple of pre-printed letters to send to you at regular intervals, in the hope you'll crumble and pay.

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hi there, firstly you have nothing to worry about mark my words. These letters are scare mongering tactics to get you to pay, all this is a bout is a reach of contract between you and the land owner nothing more. It is for them to prove you were drivng the car, if they cant then they have no chance in winning, besides they will not take you to court as they no they will not win. I have told them 3 times to take my partner to court and i am still waiting. Just bcause the car is in her name does not mean anything, they have to prove who the driver was. So tell your missus she has nothing to worry about. They will try all sorts to get you to pay but at the end of the day they know they cannot make or enforce it, as regards to the ccj wont happen, you have to go to court first, then not pay, and if the worse sonrio comes go to court, ask who the driver was, the case will fall appart as they will not know. good luck.

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Hi folks, just an update to my next chapter from these buffoons.

Received a letter dated "30 april" today.

Letter heading........ Credit Security Limited....

PLEASE TAKE CAREFUL NOTE (ooh scary)

1.You have ignored repeated applications for settlement.

2. You have had the benefit of goods/services supplied for which you have not paid.

Unless we hear from you within seven days with a payment and repayment proposal we may without further notice....

(a) INSTRUCT ONE OF OUR LOCAL COLLECTORS TO CALL UPON YOU FOR PAYMENT

(b) PROCEED WITH LEGAL ACTION FOR RECOVERY.

IT IS IN YOUR OWN INTEREST TO MAKE AN ARRANGEMENT FOR SETTLEMENT NOW BY COMPLETING THE PORTION BELOW AND RETURNING THE ENTIRE LETTER TO THIS OFFICE.

Signed by what looks like a hieroglyphic.

My question is, are they for real?

My sides are aching after reading this letter again.

Thanks,

Boom

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PLEASE TAKE CAREFUL NOTE (ooh scary)

1.You have ignored repeated applications for settlement.

 

Why did they need to write to you to tell you that? Surely you already knew you had ignored them so hardly needed them to confirm it to you. :D

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