UKPC parking invoice - tesco Faraday retail park,Coatbank Street, Coatbridge. ML5 3SQ scotland

[red.ninja13]

This letter says it's the second one (it's the first) and that I have seven days to reply or "collection procedures will continue". Closer inspection shows the address is Rossendales Collections and the email is [email protected]

 

 

isn't that funny, its the exact same as mine!!!!!

 

sent them a letter saying that they have breached oft guidelines today. and sent them a copy for their own reference, highlighting which ones they have broken hahaha love to hear what they say to that!!

[findthelady]

would this be the tel no of rossendales by any chance 01706 833772? They had my mother in hysterics today , ringing her up at home threatening demanding to know who was driving the car etc. Say they will send somebody round - debt collector? bailiff? she was too distressd to be sure.They insist she is legally liable - a phone call to the traffic police - advice without prejudice is that the owenr is only liable in criminal law . sadly the police cant do them for harrassment so going to see a 30 min solicitor. Looks like the parasites are getting wise to the forums and tightening the screw

 

On one of the threads t read ages ago there was a list of legal bodies you can repart them to . Can anybody send me a link

 

thanks

[lamma]

record the calls. let them ring again...

[papershark]

Let me just say a big to thanks to everyone that has posted here. every time i read this forum it is like getting a fresh tank of free petrol on this nauseating journey that UKPC and Rossendales are taking me on. i just thought i would share the last letter i sent Rossendales. they contacted me by phone.. and as yet havent replied in writing even though i sent this letter.

 

Rossendales Collection Limited

Hardman Mill,

New Hall Hey Road,

Rawtenstall,

Rossendale,

Lancashire

BB4 6HH

 

Dear Sir or Madam

Your company has contacted me by telephone regarding the matter of an alleged debt that has been passed on to you from UK

Parking Control (UKPC Ref: 05803xxxx). Let me reiterate in writing what I established during that conversation:

It is my absolute assertion that I am liable for no charge whatsoever on this matter. I have well documented communication with UK

Parking Control Limited (hereafter UKPC) that demonstrates that the charge they have given me is in error and that I have disputed

the ‘charge’ consistently in writing with them. Over several letters that I sent to UKPC I addressed the fact that I bore no fault and at

no time has UKPC attempted to communicate with me in any way that acknowledges my arguments. No contract of any kind was

entered into and no court has ruled me to be liable for any damage or lost business. Passing this alleged debt/charge on to your

company before such a ruling is premature and wilful act that will cause me stress and upset. In short I know this charge to be

unwarranted, unenforceable and illegal and it is being pursued in a manner that I believe to be harassment. At this time I am

exploring my avenues of complaint against UKPC. I am also considering charging UKPC (or any company that assumes this alleged

debt) for the significant amount of time that this situation is forcing me to dedicate to drafting letters of a legal nature. Please

contact me in writing as soon as possible specifically stating that you have received this letter quoting my reference (Ref:

0311Charge) and that you understand and address these 6 positions that I hold with your company. Failure to do so will be regarded

as acceptance.

1. That I believe this to be an alleged debt/charge that has been given in error and that it is unwarranted, unenforceable and illegal

and that I am liable for no payment to UKPC or any agency that attempts to collect the alleged debt/charge on behalf of UKPC or any

third party.

2. That I dispute this alleged debt/charge with UKPC and I have made Rossendales fully aware of this.

3. That I have given written defence to UKPC and passed copies of these communications on to Rossendales, and that any further

acts by Rossendales is made in full knowledge of this communication. (e.g.: Ref.0310Charge and 0037Charge )

4. That no written or verbal contract has been entered into or existed between UKPC and Philip XXXXXXX and that the claim of

UKPC is one of alleged damages for which they assert a ‘charge’ exists, and that no UK court has made a ruling on this alleged

debt/charge as of the date of this letter and any action Rossendales takes is in full knowledge of this.

5. That I will absolutely make no payment until I am ruled by court to do so. If I am ruled to do so I will comply without quarrel or

delay.

6. That Rossendales is aware that I will consider persistent and automated letter sending that asserts the existence of this alleged

debt/charge as well as any attempt to retrieve this alleged debt/charge before its authenticity has been established by a UK court as

stressful, time consuming and damaging to my character. And that I will consider such actions as illegal under Section 40 of the

Administration of Justice Act 1970.

It is my understanding that having informed you of the disputed nature of this debt that you are bound by law to pass this matter

back to UK Parking control so that they might engage legal proceedings against me. If you intend to do this or proceed with any

actions of any nature please make me aware of it. If I have not been clear with you or if this letter causes you any confusion, or if I

can be of any further assistance in answering any questions that you may have before you pursue any action please do not hesitate

to contact me. Also in the light of the communications I have sent UKPC I would like you to communicate documentation that

enlightens me to the nature of the alleged debt as UKPC understand it and has communicated to your company

 

Yours Sincerely

Philip xxxxxxxxx

 

of course as of yet they have only contacted me by phone and not addressed any of my points in writing. (letter sent recorded delivery and they ahd had it over 10 days). A person called me from Rossendales yesterday used a couple of phrases such as 'people knocking on my door' and 'badly effect your credit rating'. can i ask... can they do any of that without a CCJ. and has anyone out there recived a CCJ from Rossendales. any words from people that are further down the road then me would be great. Many Thanks again!

[dipperdonut]

Being the **** the are they may well try personal intimidation but you do not have to enter into any discussion with them and can order them off your premises

[buzby]

A well strubctured letter, however after this (and you did send it by RD?), don;t enter iny further correspondence. You've made your position clear. Don#t givew them or their clients any more credibility - they just don't deserve it.

[Andy7807]

No CCJ can be done without it going to court and then you failing to pay if went against you. It is all sacremongering, by saying this stuff it intimidates people into paying, thats how they survive. When I spoke to UKPC's 'debt' collectors last year, I told them I'm not paying pass it back to UKPC, not heard anything since, thats over a year now.

[Barnsley Boy]

If they ring again, do you have a facility to record their calls? If you can do so, log calls in any event, may come in useful should you wish to pursue a harrassment case.

[seantkd]

hi everyone,

i just found this site after looking for info on ukpc and it has given me peace of mind after the total farce that i am experiencing. if anyone can beat my story let me know.

 

i recieved a letter from the ukpc stating that i had parked illegally somewhere in middlessex on the 8/4/08 at 4.25pm. the photograph on the letter was taken from about 100 yards away and looks like a big brown 4x4 jeep. my problem with that is that i live about 500 miles away in scotland, have a red corsa that has been registered off the road with the dvla since nov 08 and unless i have a really bad memory i'm pretty sure i normally work at the time i was supposedly parked illegally in england somewhere. at first i thought it was some kind of [problem] so i have just ignored the letters but after politley telling them where to go after a cheeky phonecall they made to me i have now recieved another letter threatening to take me to court or send some heavies to my doorstep. i'm not going to budge on this so any advice on the next step would be greatly appreciated.

 

thanks

 

sean

[Bernie_the_Bolt]

hi everyone,

i just found this site after looking for info on ukpc and it has given me peace of mind after the total farce that i am experiencing. if anyone can beat my story let me know.

 

i recieved a letter from the ukpc stating that i had parked illegally somewhere in middlessex on the 8/4/08 at 4.25pm. the photograph on the letter was taken from about 100 yards away and looks like a big brown 4x4 jeep. my problem with that is that i live about 500 miles away in scotland, have a red corsa that has been registered off the road with the dvla since nov 08 and unless i have a really bad memory i'm pretty sure i normally work at the time i was supposedly parked illegally in england somewhere. at first i thought it was some kind of [problem] so i have just ignored the letters but after politley telling them where to go after a cheeky phonecall they made to me i have now recieved another letter threatening to take me to court or send some heavies to my doorstep. i'm not going to budge on this so any advice on the next step would be greatly appreciated.

 

thanks

 

sean

 

You need to consider the possibility that your car has been cloned. (OK if not cloned then your VRM is being used on another vehicle.)

[Andy7807]

Did the letter have the registration of the car that was supposedly illegally parked?

[seantkd]

yes it had the registration but when i contacted the police they said if your reg has been cloned it normally goes on the same make of car and it was probably that they had misread the number plate. they also said because the laws were different in scotland they couldn't do anything about it. great help:mad:

[PPC $ cambuster]

Ignore the bullsh*t and bluster, ignore the unenforcible invoice ,(begging letter would be a more appropriate name for it!) they will not take you to court, this is a merely an empty threat that PPCs make to try and scare the gullible into needlessly parting with their hard earned cash, if anyone does turn up at your door (not likely ) tell them that the alledged debt does not exist and tell them to leave your property immediately, if they refuse call the police and make a complaint about harassment, DO NOT PAY!!!, DO NOT ENTER INTO ANY DIALOGUE WITH A PPC , DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT, they will eventually give up and try and pester a weaker victim into giving them money they are not owed.

Edited August 30, 2008 by PPC $ cambuster

[buzby]

As a Scottish resident, you don;t have to worry about a CCJ either, as their action won't be competent. (We also cannot be clamped, because that's illegal too!). Just send a polite refusal, and enjoy the begging letters as they slowly fall away

[Andy7807]

I would write a quick letter back to say that it wasn't your car, you have never been there, they are mistaken and leave it at that. At least you have given them the info. You could ignore completely as above, but if you didn't even use the carpark a letter then just shows at least you have told them, then ignore anything further.

[831badger]

Could anyone advise please? We have received a parking notice, we received an invoice from UKPC and my partner paid it prior to telling me as she is the owner/registered keeper. The cheque has been cashed on 20/06/08. As the vehicle is used by several people and we have no indication of who was driving would it be worth our while writing to the company requesting the money is refunded unless they can prove the driver? If they refuse ignore this would we be in the right to proceed via the small claim court for recovery of the moniey. I am happy to do this. Any ideas on how i could word my letter? The vehicle was parked for 20 mins over the prescribed 2 hours on a Tesco car park.

[PPC Buster]

You will be very unlikely to be able to recover any money from them as payment will be seen as acceptance of their terms and conditions. Even if you win at court it will be hard to make them pay up.

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

[cazcounty]

ive not been contacted for well over 6 weeks now i think,maybe more.

was 45,90,115,baliffs coming etc etc etc...then 45 again 'as a goodwill gesture' if you pay in a week.

theyve gone away,it just shows everything on heres true.

cheers everyone.

[buzby]

Could anyone advise please? We have received a parking notice, we received an invoice from UKPC and my partner paid it prior to telling me as she is the owner/registered keeper. The cheque has been cashed on 20/06/08..

 

Unfortunately no - now that they have your money, there is little or no point trying to get it back. Even by going to court, your act of payment is a tacit admission that the debit exists, and oyu'd be told to seek repayment from the driver (and find out who that was from your own resources). This is simply a private company generating an invoice for a 'service'. That is their business, and they don't care who was driving or if you were stuck in ~Tesco's toilets. As you'll see from various threads, you IGNORE them, you don't pay, then try and get a refund.

[red.ninja13]

hey, sorry for the delay, but im trying to upload the letter from rossendales/churchill and i cant upload it, can any1 help lol!

[buzby]

You need to set up an account with an image hosting service (like photobucket) then place a link in your message to the image.

[red.ninja13]

A person called me from Rossendales yesterday used a couple of phrases such as 'people knocking on my door' and 'badly effect your credit rating'. can i ask... can they do any of that without a CCJ. and has anyone out there recived a CCJ from Rossendales. any words from people that are further down the road then me would be great. Many Thanks again!

 

Its actually a breach of OFT guidelines to visit, or threaten to visit debtors when the debt is disputed(2.12f). It is also a breach to ignore the fact that a debt is disputed and continue to make demands. I have found a form on OFT website to make a complaint against debt collection agency The Office of Fair Trading: Debt collection practices

 

but its only supposed to be used by third party agencies :-|

[red.ninja13]

photobucket wont let me upload my scan, i give up

[Al27]

Don't worry. Your letter will be the usual tosh.

 

Ignore!

[Tony49]

just had to write this as hav`nt b een on here for awhile, well the s*** keeps coming boys & girls, they are like a bad case of diarrhoea ,it`s about time we dried these b*** up for good ! UKPC are based entirely on there own rules as it certainly isnt law in 99 % of the cases, if everyone who had a ticket from UKPC was to dispute it, under the grounds that there is no statutory law to support it, then when they go to debt collectors, they are in actual fact breaking OFT guidelines & the co. then that takes it on be it Rossendales whoever are also breaking the said guidelines, this should then be reported by each of us too the said body. UKPC do not go to tribuneral or court because in 99 % of the cases they would have a massive hole in their defense, the only case I can think of is where they actually record on the big brother you reading terms and conditions on their signage & even this does`nt nessesarily mean that its understood! This lot if they ever take my case to court, will lose & I promise to all you faithfulll out there that I will broadcast it loud & clear, it could be the end for these a******** WHO THINK THEY ARE THE LAW

Edited June 25, 2008 by Tony49