Jump to content


Accident with carer


johnwilsonstorey
 Share

style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 5330 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

My mother who is 84 has help at home twice a day. Last Sunday morning at about 9 0'clock the carer who had never visited before, and dosen't know her, took my mother on a walk around the garden although it was a very damp and grey morning. It had also been raining very heavily for the previous 2 days.

On this trip she did not have her walking stick, and she NEVER walks unaided and she fell and broke her hip. A major thing to happen if you are 1/4 that age.

The 'carer' managed to get her back inside the house, made her a cup of tea reported the incedent to her peers and then after a very few minutes left, presumably for the next patient.

The carers' office then phoned us to report that she had had this accident. We then went to the house to find her lying on the floor and unable to move, an ambulance was then called.

It has left my mother with almost no prospect of recovery and her frame of mind has really taken a turn for the worse, in fact while she has been in hospital she has actually hit 2 staff, a thing she would never do before she had this accident, so its totally changed her.

It is my intention to make an offical complaint about this to Social Services but would like some advice on how to proceed.

If You are on benefits you must read this

 

Social Security Administration Act 1992

Miscellaneous

Certain benefit to be inalienable **

 

187- Subject to the provisions of this Act, every assignment of, or charge on-

(a)benefit as defined in section 122 of the Contributions and Benefits Act;

(b)any income-related benefit; or

©child benefit,

and every agreement to assign or charge such benefit shall be void; and, on the bankruptcy of the beneficiary, such benefit shall not pass to any trustee or other person acting on behalf of his creditors

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi,

 

I am sorry to hear what happened to your mum.

 

Iwork in social services but with children so the advice I am passing on here is in the broad sense of how to complain.

 

Check here General Social Care Council: Homepage - this is the social care regulator.

Does your mum have a social worker - if so complain to her in writing first. Check out the website of your local authority and the adult care pages which should have all the information you need there to complain. Send letter to Team Manager, Service Manager and Head of Adult CAre.

Also make a complaint to the agency who supplied the staff and copy to all concerned.

I cannot for the life of me understand why an ambulance wasn't called - accidents happen but this seems like gross negligence.

 

If I think of any thing else I will get back to you.

 

Best Wishes

Consumer Health Forums - where you can discuss any health or relationship matters.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm sorry to hear about your mum and I do appreciate your concerns but I do have to question where the hip fracture occured. If the 'carer' was able to walk your mum back into the house after her fall I would question whether the fracture had occured at this point. The fact that you found her lying on the floor perhaps suggests she had a second fall?

I agree with your point that a carer who does not know your mum and her capabilities should not have taken her for a walk.

Are the doctors going to operate? If so she may make a good recovery - fingers crossed for you all.

Best wishes.

Poppynurse :)

 

If my comments have been helpful please click my scales!!!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the advise and i'm sorry its taken a few days to post again

One question which comes to mind is a question of where the actual fracture took place, is it possible that when the original fall took place in the garden that the bone although fractured stayed in place and this is how the carer managed to get my mother back inside.

Then as she later tried to get up the two ends of the bone seperated and this is why she ended up on the floor rather than a second fall causing the broken bones.

I do understand that no one will ever really know, but all I am asking is, could it be possible.

An update on her health is she is more confused and very vacant and refusing any help in standing although her leg has been 'repaired' by plates and screws.

If You are on benefits you must read this

 

Social Security Administration Act 1992

Miscellaneous

Certain benefit to be inalienable **

 

187- Subject to the provisions of this Act, every assignment of, or charge on-

(a)benefit as defined in section 122 of the Contributions and Benefits Act;

(b)any income-related benefit; or

©child benefit,

and every agreement to assign or charge such benefit shall be void; and, on the bankruptcy of the beneficiary, such benefit shall not pass to any trustee or other person acting on behalf of his creditors

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry to hear your mum is still confused - is this a new thing for her?

 

Normally when a neck of femur fractures the leg becomes shortened and externally rotated as the muscles pull the bone out of line - I'm not an orthopaedic expert but I suspect that she would not have been able to walk at all once the leg was fractured. Ask to see her consultant and ask his opinion - I would also be asking questions about the confusion if this is new - has she been checked for a urine infection for example?

 

Hope she recovers :)

Poppynurse :)

 

If my comments have been helpful please click my scales!!!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

She has been a little confused over the last 2/3 years since the death of her husband but since the accident the difference in her is frightening. The hospital is going to do a CT scan this week to see if anything is happening.

Regarging the leg injury I will talk to the consultant and ask his opinion

If You are on benefits you must read this

 

Social Security Administration Act 1992

Miscellaneous

Certain benefit to be inalienable **

 

187- Subject to the provisions of this Act, every assignment of, or charge on-

(a)benefit as defined in section 122 of the Contributions and Benefits Act;

(b)any income-related benefit; or

©child benefit,

and every agreement to assign or charge such benefit shall be void; and, on the bankruptcy of the beneficiary, such benefit shall not pass to any trustee or other person acting on behalf of his creditors

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

as a carer i find that your mums carer is well and truly out of order,she should have rang the gp and remained with your mum until the gp came out,or least asked for a second carer to come and sit with your mum,the problem will also be with the company the carer works for ,for not giving her the correct information such as she needs her stick to walk with or cant not walk unaided,i would complain about it to social services and there is always the csi aswll

Link to post
Share on other sites

One question which comes to mind is a question of where the actual fracture took place, is it possible that when the original fall took place in the garden that the bone although fractured stayed in place and this is how the carer managed to get my mother back inside.

Then as she later tried to get up the two ends of the bone seperated and this is why she ended up on the floor rather than a second fall causing the broken bones.

I do understand that no one will ever really know, but all I am asking is, could it be possible.

 

Short answer to that is: No. Even a younger fully mobile person would not be able to put any weight or walk on a fractured major bone. If your mum had broken her bone in the garden, even with the help of the carer, she would not have made it back indoors. So, forget the "no-one will ever know", because that part is beyond doubt.

 

This doesn't absolve the carer of what was an appalling behaviour and lack of care, and that definitely should be pursued as an official complaint, should it only be so that this carer can not inflict upon the same misery upon an other person.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Short answer to that is: No. Even a younger fully mobile person would not be able to put any weight or walk on a fractured major bone. If your mum had broken her bone in the garden, even with the help of the carer, she would not have made it back indoors. So, forget the "no-one will ever know", because that part is beyond doubt.

 

I'm not a doctor but I think you're mistaken.

 

In the Your Health section in Body & Soul in today's Times (page 9) there's an article called

 

"FAIRYTALES ABOUT FIRST AID

You think you know a bit about medicine? You're likely to be wrong says Dr Keith Hopcroft. He debunks common myths....

... If you can walk on it, it can't be broken

Wrong. Fractures may "impact", with the broken ends of bone forcing themselves together in a messy and unstable union. The result is pain and swelling - as in the elderly lady with an impacted fracture of the hip who calls for help only a few days after her injury"....

Here's the link You think you know a bit about medicine? Try this-Life & Style-Women-Body & Soul-TimesOnline

My posts are offered informally, without prejudice and without liability. You should seek the advice of a qualified insured professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

There is a major difference between a break and a fracture, in medical terms. If a bone was broken, I would be amazed if you could put pressure/weight on it. A fracture is a different story - fractures are often treated in a similar way to sprains and severe bruising, as they do not usually(although clearly depends upon the location of the fracture) cause any differing symptoms then these conditions.

7 years in retail customer service

 

Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

Please note that any posts made by myself are for information only and should not and must not be taken as correct or factual. If in doubt, consult with a solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

 

Please click the star if I have helped!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

My terminology is probably completely incorrect, sorry I appreciate that. However, I perosnally(as a layman!) would describe, if I was describing in detail, damage to the bone that has not gone right through as a "fracture", and a clean "break" across the entire cross section of the bone as a broken bone. There is a clear difference between the symptoms and treatment of the two, as I have found out to my own detriment!!

7 years in retail customer service

 

Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

Please note that any posts made by myself are for information only and should not and must not be taken as correct or factual. If in doubt, consult with a solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

 

Please click the star if I have helped!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    No registered users viewing this page.


  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...