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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
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    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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hi Glenn

 

received your message thanks, how do i get hold of the guy with the letter, can he post it to my thread or the business thread do you think? could you ask him please, or can he e-mail it:)

 

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hi glenn

 

received message, as i,m sure yo have worked out by now my skills on these threads are limited so if you could be kind enough to let the chap have my thread so i will be able to talk to him without hassling you all the time that wuold be brill!!!!!

 

as always ;)

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Hi Glenn

 

just to let you know i have received another letter from the court, it states the : Take notice that the direction hearing will take place on the 13 April, guess what its a friday!!!!, sorry what does a direction hearing mean again:o

 

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directions hearings are to help you find the court, only joking.

 

Basically the judge will ask questions of both parties about their cases and then decide who the claim should be heard ie which track, order standard disclosure or stuff like that.

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

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hi Glenn

 

ha ha direction of the court, whos feeling witty tonight! what does standard disclosure mean, which track, whats that, small claims or fast track ?? for the info i have requested should the court just either decide the bank should give me what i have requested or quote some law that they have given me all they should ie bankstatments as against my request for advanced notification of charges.

 

hels;)

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hi Glenn

 

ha ha direction of the court, whos feeling witty tonight! what does standard disclosure mean the court can order both parties to reavel documents they hold which both helps and hinders their claim, which track, whats that, small claims or fast track correct ?? for the info i have requested should the court just either decide the bank should give me what i have requested or quote some law that they have given me all they should ie bankstatments as against my request for advanced notification of charges. its likley the court have seen similar claims before and expect the bank to cough up before the hearing. It may alos be that they havent seen such a case and want to find out whats going on. The fact that you have been told they hold your data is good enough reason for you to birng the claim so odnt worry.

 

hels;)

 

 

By the way im trying to sort out the letter issue for you.

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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glenn

 

wots happened to your spelling??????? a touch of hels itus i believe.

 

Not sure i understand?

 

Glenn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS the edit facility is a wonderful thing.

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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Hels

 

Its easy for us - like Glen I have been pleasntly surprised how judges really try to put you at ease, they are not interested in clever solicitors playing with words, they are just ordinary folk trying their best to administer justice.

 

 

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hi

Glenn and Zubo

 

thanks for all your advise and comment. i assure you if i am successful i shall do all i can to help anyone who is going down these roads. Every thing you guys write i print off so i can read and read, eventaully it has to in 'GO IN'.

 

thanks again Glenn for your efforts to get the letter, this would be VERY useful. ;)

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Hi Zubo

 

just to let you know :) i am at court to get my data not the charges, but hopefully that will soon follow.

 

hels

 

yes I know I had to keep re-reading to try to figure out what they are trying to achieve...

 

I'm like Tom Hanks in BIG? - your a child and someone tries to tell you that theyre planning to develop and market a Skyscraper which turns into a robot - 'I dont get it!! wheres the fun in that - now a bug which turns into a robot - cool!!!'

 

So ok I don't get it.

Why withhold your data?

Doncha just luv mysteries....

 

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hi Zuba

 

The story goes like this in brief, i,m in business, i get quarterly bank statements which list the charges charged by the bank for the previous quarter, some charges are perfectly lawful and reasonable, paying money in, getting change out, paying out cheques ect, but i too hae many charges for referral fee,s ect at various charges £15-£30 each, however i need what is called Notification of Charges [as described above] which they have sent over the years but i cannot find them so i request 2000-2006 well actually i have 2003-06, the banks have sent the ordinary bank statments which show the total amount but not the breakdown, so it would be impossible to reach an accurate figure to re claim unlawful charges, thus probably allowing my case to fail. The bank have said they do not hold what i have requested for more than three years thefore cannot provide me with it, i, on the the other hand have evidence to the contray.

 

does this brief help you understand?

 

hels:)

 

Doncha just hope i,m right;)

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hi Zuba

 

The story goes like this in brief, i,m in business, i get quarterly bank statements which list the charges charged by the bank for the previous quarter, some charges are perfectly lawful and reasonable, paying money in, getting change out, paying out cheques ect, but i too hae many charges for referral fee,s ect at various charges £15-£30 each, however i need what is called Notification of Charges [as described above] which they have sent over the years but i cannot find them so i request 2000-2006 well actually i have 2003-06, the banks have sent the ordinary bank statments which show the total amount but not the breakdown, so it would be impossible to reach an accurate figure to re claim unlawful charges, thus probably allowing my case to fail. The bank have said they do not hold what i have requested for more than three years thefore cannot provide me with it, i, on the the other hand have evidence to the contray.

 

does this brief help you understand?

 

hels:)

 

Doncha just hope i,m right;)

 

aha - it is a bug turning into a monster... now i get it.

 

one other option is to prepare your claim based upon 2003-2006 and estimated prorata on the missing data. I seem to recall that Banks have an obligation to retain business data for at least 10 years to be compliant with Government regulations related to Customs & Excise and also Money Laundering regulations. So might be useful to contact Department of Trade for those regs.

 

I know your right gal

 

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Estimated claims are fraught with problems and are unfortunately easily deafeted by the banks.

 

I dont think there is any legislation which requires them to hold personal data for any specific length of time, its an urbam myth and if it is business data they ar enot under any obligation to prpvide it under the DPA.

 

helen is after her data based on the fact it has her personal data on it.

 

HTH

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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Estimated claims are fraught with problems and are unfortunately easily deafeted by the banks.

 

I dont think there is any legislation which requires them to hold personal data for any specific length of time, its an urbam myth and if it is business data they ar enot under any obligation to prpvide it under the DPA.

 

helen is after her data based on the fact it has her personal data on it.

 

HTH

 

Glenn

 

:ooh:o reading her explanation seems to indicate its business data - as I read your points - its the personal part of that business data??

Agreed that business data is not covered by the DPA - but I was referring to business data when I said that obligations for retention of financial information IS required by legislation for at least 10 years NOT personal data.

 

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hi Glenn & Zubo

 

slightly worried having read both your last 'bits', its funny how the doupts start creeping in the nearer the court date, i will just check but i think its today the last day for Barclays to submit a defence, i guess i will be notified if they have. Just so i am really clear with my case, can i run it by you guys again. The account in question say this on the bank statements. Mr & Mr.xxxxxx [Our names]

Trading as XXXXXX

Buckingham Palace [Home address]

London

HGI QE2

 

Because it in in both our names home address and, makes a referrence to our business name, however just to clarify business transaction do take place in this account as does house morgage payments persaonl life insurance ect, but monies is put in this account from the business and business bill are paid out of this account. hopefully this makes me covered by the DPA right???

 

hels :)

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Hels

 

If you or anyone else indeed can be identifeid by reference to the information contaimed in your file its personal data.

 

HTH

 

PS ill sort out emailing those letters to you shortly ihave them in my work bag.

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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Hi Glenn

 

ok thanks Glenn, must remember that! Yep those letters will be really really useful but remember, i have very basic skill on the computer, but perhas you could e-mail them and i can just print them off.

 

PS are the letter self explainitary as in will a lay person [me] be able to understand them or are they full of non-understandable jargan?

 

pps. today [21st] was the last day for the bank to submit thier defence, should i sit and wait for news or contact the court and quote my reference number?? so far i have not heard anything but i guess this is normal, is it? be on the look out if you have time just in case they have put in a defence cos then i will really need you guys.

 

forever grateful for services renderd.:)

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ring the court tomorrow and see if they have received anything from the bank.

 

The letters are striaght forward i just have to scan them and email them over.

 

HTH

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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