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If that was the reply to your letter before action, then it's time to start the action that you stated in it. Check out the step by step instructions. It's all there for you.

 

Hey Caro,

Thankyou,

Yes indeed it was the response to my LBA. They are saying that they are still looking into my complaint etc, however I am not waiting around for them.

 

Its time to get serious!!

 

Cheers

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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No problem. Keep to your own timetable, not theirs.

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No problem. Keep to your own timetable, not theirs.

 

 

Het Caro,

 

Just had a look at the step by step, and I think I know what I am doing.

 

HOWEVER - not 100%

 

What are the basic things to do next?

 

Is it the moneyclaim part etc?

Also not 100% on the spread sheet to use and in fact how to use it.

 

Cheers

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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Hi guys not 100% on what I should be doing now, ive looked at the steps to take but not 100% sure what to do?

 

My last letter from YB read:

 

I refer to your recent leter and as requested I have re opened the complaint and a further review is being undertaken.

 

my understanding of the further issues you have raised are as follws:

 

- initial complaint not fully investigated

- no refund of charges to the account

 

I hope to respond to your compaint shortly, i will write to you as soon as possible, once I have had the opportunity to review the above.

 

Please be assured that every effort is being made to bring your complaint to a satisfactory conclusion.

 

yours sincerely

bla bla bloody bla

 

What should I do now?

Please help :confused:

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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Hi guys not 100% on what I should be doing now, ive looked at the steps to take but not 100% sure what to do?

 

I have had all responses from YB, my last letter was LBA see below:

 

My last letter from YB read:

 

I refer to your recent leter and as requested I have re opened the complaint and a further review is being undertaken.

 

my understanding of the further issues you have raised are as follws:

 

- initial complaint not fully investigated

- no refund of charges to the account

 

I hope to respond to your compaint shortly, i will write to you as soon as possible, once I have had the opportunity to review the above.

 

Please be assured that every effort is being made to bring your complaint to a satisfactory conclusion.

 

yours sincerely

bla bla bloody bla

 

What should I do now?

 

Please help :confused:

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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If the 14 days are up then I would start filing with Moneyclaim.

 

Sarah.

 

Sarah,

Good Mornnig, Thanks for the response.

 

So this is where I start to pay out some money?

I guess all details I need to follow are on here?

 

Is there any where else I need to go to look for help / forms etc?

 

Very Best Wishes

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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Sorry just noticed that you have a thread already. I'll respond on there so that people can keep up with your progress :)

Yorkshire Bank

Started Process 19th Sept 2006.

All Stages Followed.

Next Step Court!

Hearing Date 7th June 2007.

WON!!!!! 6th June 2007 :D

 

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Sarah,

Good Mornnig, Thanks for the response.

 

So this is where I start to pay out some money?

I guess all details I need to follow are on here?

 

Is there any where else I need to go to look for help / forms etc?

 

Very Best Wishes

Rich

 

Yes this is where you need to start paying out a bit but you will get that money back when you win your case. I believe that MCOL is quite user friendly and they have a good help system. All the details you will need are on this site providing you look for them. Just make sure that you know exactly what you need to be doing and read up on everything. If you need anymore advice just shout :D

 

Sarah.

Yorkshire Bank

Started Process 19th Sept 2006.

All Stages Followed.

Next Step Court!

Hearing Date 7th June 2007.

WON!!!!! 6th June 2007 :D

 

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Sorry just noticed that you have a thread already. I'll respond on there so that people can keep up with your progress :)

 

Sarah,

 

Thats great, I was panaking a little as I was at a losss as which way to turn, as now things are starting to heat up a little.

 

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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You might want to have a read of this thread too ;)

 

Getting MCOL Right

 

Sarah.

 

 

Sarah,

Your a star

 

Will be in touch in the very near future !!

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BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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Hi there!

 

Just thought I would give you links to court information and choices. You may not have to pay the money if you are exempt from fees, so it is worth clicking the link below.

 

INFORMATION ON FILING IN COURT

 

Fees

 

You can apply for an exemption through the court when you file your claim so it is worth a read and if in hardship, worth applying.

 

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/H...fl ets_id=172

 

 

Money claim online - OFFERS NO FEE EXEMPTION

5. Money Claim On-Line (MCOL) Particulars of Claim

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/site-questions-suggestions/71369-getting-mcol-right.html

 

 

N1 at your local court. Preferred - fee exemption allowed.

4. Particulars of claim - N1 - hard copy version

 

Reading the above and having informed choices so your confident and know what suits you is why I have added the information, so you can ask questions.

 

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THE N1 IS BEST

 

Happy reading and all the best with your claim!

 

CJ

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Okay well after my first real look into the next stage, I can see that its best to fill out the relevant forms and hand them to my local courts

 

RATHER THAN

 

Completing the MCOL.

 

Is this correct?

 

;)

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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I did mine through my local court and it certainly makes you feel good :D Guess the choice is yours really.

 

Sarah.

Yorkshire Bank

Started Process 19th Sept 2006.

All Stages Followed.

Next Step Court!

Hearing Date 7th June 2007.

WON!!!!! 6th June 2007 :D

 

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Any advice on how to fill in the interest spreadsheet greatly appreciated?

 

Im not the best at the old interest calculation etc.

 

Cheers

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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If you have excel then I suggest that you complete the spreadsheet for bank accounts in England - Advanced.

 

It isn't as bad as it sounds and if you put the charges in one sheet it calculates the interest for you. The instructions are on the front page of the spreadsheet, but holler if you get stuck.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/182-6-interest-calculation-spreadsheets.html

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If you have excel then I suggest that you complete the spreadsheet for bank accounts in England - Advanced.

 

It isn't as bad as it sounds and if you put the charges in one sheet it calculates the interest for you. The instructions are on the front page of the spreadsheet, but holler if you get stuck.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/182-6-interest-calculation-spreadsheets.html

 

 

CARO

Thanks no doubt ill be in touch

Cheers

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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Hi there!

 

Just thought I would give you links to court information and choices. You may not have to pay the money if you are exempt from fees, so it is worth clicking the link below.

 

INFORMATION ON FILING IN COURT

 

Fees

 

You can apply for an exemption through the court when you file your claim so it is worth a read and if in hardship, worth applying.

 

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/H...fl ets_id=172

 

 

Money claim online - OFFERS NO FEE EXEMPTION

5. Money Claim On-Line (MCOL) Particulars of Claim

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/site-questions-suggestions/71369-getting-mcol-right.html

 

 

N1 at your local court. Preferred - fee exemption allowed.

4. Particulars of claim - N1 - hard copy version

 

Reading the above and having informed choices so your confident and know what suits you is why I have added the information, so you can ask questions.

 

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THE N1 IS BEST

 

Happy reading and all the best with your claim!

 

CJ

 

Chloe,

Thats great.

 

The only problem I am having is the spreadsheet. I have no idea as to how to tackle this. I dont want to complete it wrongly and look like a fool in court etc etc.

 

Cheers

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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If you have excel then I suggest that you complete the spreadsheet for bank accounts in England - Advanced.

 

It isn't as bad as it sounds and if you put the charges in one sheet it calculates the interest for you. The instructions are on the front page of the spreadsheet, but holler if you get stuck.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/182-6-interest-calculation-spreadsheets.html

 

Hey CARO,

Can you confirm when filing at my local court do I produce the following:

 

  1. N1 Form
  2. Spreadsheet of charges including 8%

Do I need to send a letter to YB as well? Responding to their last letter?

 

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

:p

 

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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I suggest that you take 3 copies of each, keeping one for yourself, and the 2 copies for the court, one of which they can send to YB.

 

If you are talking of the standard fob off letter from YB, I see no need to respond as you told them your requirements and what you would do if they failed to comply in the LBA. You are simply doing as you stated.

 

Have you sussed the spreadsheet OK?

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I suggest that you take 3 copies of each, keeping one for yourself, and the 2 copies for the court, one of which they can send to YB.

 

If you are talking of the standard fob off letter from YB, I see no need to respond as you told them your requirements and what you would do if they failed to comply in the LBA. You are simply doing as you stated.

 

Have you sussed the spreadsheet OK?

 

Ok i see, thats great.

 

The spreadsheet seems okay I think I have sussed it. As I go through I will post any problems.

 

Fingers crossed.

 

Do you happen to know what the time scale is from subbmitting the claim with the courts tio getting at least the first offer from YB?

 

Cheers

Rich

Claiming Against:

BANK ACCOUNT

  1. Yorkshire Bank - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent

CREDIT CARDS

  1. Yorkshire Bank
  2. Royal Bank of Scotland
  3. Halifax
  4. Barclaycard
  5. Morgan & Stanley
  6. Capital One - SAR Sent

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How long is a piece of string? Some people get an offer before going near the court, albeit for a fraction of the amount being claimed.

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Advice & opinions given by Caro are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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