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Phew. Wishing you the very best for tomorrow Sparkie. :)

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Well I’m back and I’m sorry to report the court would not grant me my order for further disclosure, :confused::mad:the Judge took the view that even if he ordered the disclosure of further documents, they would not assist in adding to the potentiality for my claim for Breach of Contract misappropriation of funds and wrongful dishonour of cheques

 

He was not interested in my claim of false accounting fraud false statements in statements of truth, and all the rest misrepresentation as he said they were not civil claims.:mad::mad:

 

The only good thing was about costs Cobbetts tried to add another £1200 to their bill of £3700. plus travelling plus Vat.

 

He did tear into the Barrister about that and said the fact that she was trying to claim for preparing Lynsey Robinsons witness statement said , it was a sorry state of affairs when a solicitor a firm such as Cobbetts need a Barrister to prepare a witness statement.:lol:

 

He awarded them £900 costs and no more……..the Barrister then said could she have a tape of the judgement on costs the he went ballistic saying so you are thinking of appealing against my order of costs …….."may I remind you I have full discretion for order of costs and IF I had not already made the ruling I would have reduced it basic costs":lol:

 

That’s it……its back to my claims again ………First one Unlawfully processing data, because they have admitted they can’t supply my account opening documents which would have contained my consent to process data ….so undeterred sparkie’s back on the hunt in the mean time I’ve found a firm of solicitors that will probably take my case of Fraud, False accounting false statements etc on community funding , because there is "civil fraud "got to ring them tomorrow………………….because personally………… I’m on pension credit.:-D:-D

 

Sparkie……I’m having a few consolation beers now ……cheers:-D

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Hi Sparkie,i am so sorry to hear that, whats the Justice system coming to! Dont give up, thats what they want.Get your claims in court and let everyone know what they have done. The truth always finds its way out,in the end. Good luck.

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I was truly sorry to hear this Sparkie. It seems very unfair that you are being prevented from bringing this to light. :(

 

Just one question. If it isnt a civil case.. Does this make what they are doing/have done a criminal offence?

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Just one question. If it isnt a civil case.. Does this make what they are doing/have done a criminal offence?

 

I think the Judge was confused, (or drunk!) and really meant these weren't claims that the County Court would deal with, so he didn't and wouldn't have any of it.

 

County Courts have a tendency to overly complicate issues that fall within their remit, so they "hunt" for reasons to do that in simple claims, then allocate them to the Multi-track or to the High Court. This just isn't cricket in cases that are clearly easily manageable and should be dealt with by the County Courts, IMHO.

 

I have been a victim of this "deliberate misunderstanding" myself recently, so I know how Sparkie feels.

 

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Thanks for that explanation car2403:)

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Here's a letter from my MP regarding his meeting with the Information Commissioners Office when he wanted answers about the way Nat West and RBS copied my credit file and took no action against them.

 

Shows he is still on my case and on RBS's back .

 

Got another appointment with him friday 4th July.

 

Also had a quick word with my partners solicitor today, regarding the failure to obtain that order.

 

He was amazed that the judge did not consider the fact that as the RBS had said so many times they had no more documents etc to disclose and that they had aready supplied all they had that as they supplied 20 more pages ...onlyon receipt of an application to disclose that my application was in truth sucessful as it took the application to make them supply them so how could he not have ordered it ........ie after the fact. Good point if only I had thought of that at the hearing.

 

Never mind another lesson learned. got to think in three dimensional logic from now on.

 

sparkie

 

 

LONDON SW1A OAA

ANDREW MILLER MP

Mr Sparkie

13 June 2008 Our Ref:kl/GRACO 1004

 

 

 

Dear Mr Sparkie

HOUSE OF COMMONS

 

Thank you for your email dated 11th June.

Further to my meeting with Richard Thomas - Information Commissioner on 23rd April I have not yet received a response from him. However, I have written to him requesting this as soon as possible.

I will contact you again when I hear from Mr Thomas but I would be grateful if you could keep me updated on this matter following your hearing on 19th June.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Andrew Miller

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im only halfway through this thread and it completely and utterly enthralling!

 

however, i need to go to bed and im unsure how to subscribe to it... im going to add this page to my favourites and hope for the best until someone can shed sum light!!

 

and i have to say sparkie1723, ur a one man wonder and im simply amazed at what you have gone through with them. i am currently on the 5th page of 32 so if things are still going by the time i reach the 32nd page, then i really do wish you all the best!

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im only halfway through this thread and it completely and utterly enthralling!

 

however, i need to go to bed and im unsure how to subscribe to it... im going to add this page to my favourites and hope for the best until someone can shed sum light!!

 

and i have to say sparkie1723, ur a one man wonder and im simply amazed at what you have gone through with them. i am currently on the 5th page of 32 so if things are still going by the time i reach the 32nd page, then i really do wish you all the best!

 

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Thanks sweetchicklady and locutus.

Your support and everyones means more than you can imagine it's that sort of thing that keeps me going I will never give up because this all started fron a wrong default on my credit file for £195 I did not owe but RBS would not budge for 5 years.

IF RBS are like this when they are definately wrong what chance has anyone got when they "could be" right.

 

 

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To be honest I don't see why they are even arguing! It's gonna be much cheaper for them to agree with you and sort it than argue and end up getting ordered by the courts to sort it.

 

This thread has also provided me with a wealth of information that I will be using after my case for bank charges is concluded (stayed at the moment)

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I'd be careful issuing seperate claims, as you might find them being consolidated in to one regardless, which would undoubtedly mean the multi-track because of the complexity of the whole thing.

 

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I'd be careful issuing seperate claims, as you might find them being consolidated in to one regardless, which would undoubtedly mean the multi-track because of the complexity of the whole thing.

 

Unless you issue them one at a time............sigh........which could take forever

 

 

edited by me....(oops didnt see the previous posts :) )

 

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it took a while, but iv finally finished reading the entire contents of this thread....and im exhausted, i cant imagine how you are feeling mr sparkie :p

 

i was disappointed for you at the result of the hearing and my heart goes out to you. to work this hard and still not give up is both admirable and honourable.

 

i am about to start a claim for bank charges for an account i opened 30th march 2005. i remember this date clearly as it was the day before my 18th birthday (which i further remember as i didnt have a passport, and i opened it the day before my 18th as under 18's can use a birth certificate as acceptable id heehee)

 

i havent used this account since roughly the end of 2006. i have had no statements since, although i was paying off my debt of almost £3000 through a debt collection agency (even though roughly £1400 of this is bank charges - i am about to send my sar so i can understand this better) after agreeing a new payment plan with this agency (due to change in circumstances), i had only made 1 payment and when i phoned the next week to make another payment, was informed that the account had been passed back to rbs. the reasons for this is unknown. i am worried and nervous as to the reasons and consequences behind this, as i have complied with every request. and now i am too scared to contact them to find out what is happening.

 

i already have a thread regarding this but felt compelled to message you regarding this. i think u must be a veteran in regards to the rbs at this stage :D

 

i wish you the very best of luck, sparkie, and i will continue to follow your happenings.

 

sweetchicklady xx

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