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EU to UK Licence swap 20mts ago - Speeding tickets + driving without insurance help please


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I appreciate any help on this.

I got 2 different speeding tickets and I'm hoping I can get one of them cancelled as it's for the exact same road, 2 days back to back.

The limit was 40mph, but I honestly thought it was 50mph and I was driving within that limit...

First time driving that road.

No other points ever on my driving licence if that matters.

Any advice for the appeal please?
 

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Speeding "tickets" are not like parking tickets. They cannot be appealed. 

No you won't get one of them cancelled. They were two days apart and so will be treated as separate offences.

If your speed was 53mph or below you will be offered a course for one of them (cost of about £100 but no points). For the other you will be offered a fixed penalty (£100 and three points). If you want to decline either of those offers the alternative is prosecution in court, where the financial penalty will be considerably higher.

Make sure you respond to the "requests for driver's details" within the 28 days allowed. Failure to do so will see you commit a more serious offence which carries a hefty fine, six points, and an endorsement code which will see your insurance premiums double. Also make sure you submit your driving licence details if you accept a fixed penalty.

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Thank you so much for your reply!

It was really informational.

I've never had a ticket before...

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As said so succinctly above, that's the options.

Pleading not guilty runs a risk.

However if you had a good and persuasive reason for misjudging the limits you may have a defence.

I know of a couple of cases where councils have not cut foliage on village approaches in the north east

. Dashcam might be useful. 

There's a well recognised 30 to 20 restriction in Gateshead just off a roundabout.

Every Spring the sign is invisible. 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Advice to appeal a speeding tickets

Just be aware that foliage covering signs is not persuasive if you reside in the area and regularly used the said route concerned. 

One gentleman of recent, famous for disputing parking and speeding issues, just cost his client £1000's claiming that!! 

 

Dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I drove a friends a car for a few days and I used cuvva car insurance to insure myself for the time period.

Here's the problem:

I made a mistake with the dates on the insurance, I ended up driving uninsured for one day and I got a speeding ticket.

My friend named me as the driver on the Notice of Intended Prosecution as she should and I will take the blame of course.

Will met police ask for proof that I was in fact driving?

I mean, any more other than me replying to the NIP that I will soon receive from them?

Cause I assume that my insurance for the day will be the proof that they need...

Secondly, 

 if caught driving uninsured, what will happen please? I read it's £300 and 6 points.

Is that all or is it worse?

I'm only asking for information from knowledgeable people.

If you intent to just mock, you're certainly not helping.

Thanks

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Hello, welcome to CAG. 

I expect people will be along to advise later. We aren't here to mock, this is a serious forum. If you feel you're being picked on  report the relevant post to the site team. 

Best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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ive merged your threads as they are related. 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Advice to appeal a speeding tickets + was driving without ins

See my thread of a year and a half ago covering the same point as your post

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/454624-insurance-check-following-nip/#google_vignette

My Son completed the Awareness Course (on-line) and, as suggested by Man in the Middle, nothing further was heard.

It might be different if your speed was over the limit for offering a Course, or the Police Force concerned does not offer them.

As an aside, ensure the forms requesting Driver details are completed and returned within time. 

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I got my car driving license in 2015 from an EU country, then I moved in the UK and swapped it to a UK license 20 months ago. What does this mean for my points limit please? Is it 6 or 12 for me right now?

 

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The New Drivers Act sees a driver's licence revoked if he accrues six points within two years of becoming a qualified driver. If you passed your test in an EU country, then that is the date you became a "qualified driver" for the purposes of that Act. 

For drivers who became qualified more than two years previously, if they accrue twelve or more points within a three year period they face a mandatory six month disqualification unless they can persuade the court that they or others will face "exceptional hardship" if they are banned. 

In both cases, the dates of the offences are used to calculate the relevant period.

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Oh that is very helpful, thanks a million for answering my query.

Looking at the license right now. At the front it says the issue date is 2022 (that's when I swapped it), but at the back it says 2015 next to Category B. I'm definitely at 12 points, 

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If you simply respond to the NIP and request for driver's details promptly the police will simply process it in the normal way and either offer you an out-of-court disposal or take court action (and which of those will depend on the speed and limit and your eligibility). They do not routinely ask for proof of insurance and there seems no reason why they should do so in your case.

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if caught driving uninsured, what will happen please? I read it's £300 and 6 points.

£300 and six points is the fixed penalty amount for no insurance. It can be more if the case goes to court. There is provision for n unlimited fine, up to eight points or a disqualification.

 

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Is that all or is it worse?

That is all as far as the penalty goes. However, you should not dismiss it too lightly. An endorsement for No Insurance will probably double your insurance premiums in the first year. As well as that, if you also have one or two speeding endorsements, the increase will be considerably more. In fact in those circumstances some of the mainstream insurers will refuse to cover you at all and you will have to go to a "specialist" (which means very expensive) broker. 

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