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    • sorry but that letter needs to be much much better. you need to express that it was a stilly youthful mistake trying to be the big man and jumping the turnstile to look big infront of your peers. TfL prosecutors are on the email address on their first letter. get the court form sent back to the court , (but copy it first) stating you plead guilty and wish to attend to address the judge in person face to face to show your genuine remorse for your stupid youthful exuberance.      
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    • LoL Dx you crack me up. Thanks for the advice. I'll stay positive.
    • Utter Rubbish!! lowell dont write and beg for deals once they start court. as for your attitude, we'll thats nothing new for you.😎 you wont be quizzed, it's not like TV, simply refer to your defence/WS when answering anything the judge may ever ask. well it involves chickens. dx  
    • Thanks fk, I hope I don't have to face the court. Bless you for the reassurance. 
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[if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant

Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton

Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L

Date of issue – . 28/04/23

Particulars of Claim

What is the claim for – 

(1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.

(2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.

(3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx.

By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.

(4) And C claims-

1. 12,xxx.xx

2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment.

Date xx/xx/2023

What is the total value of the claim? 12k

Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes

Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No

Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A
Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After

Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online

Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes

Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause

What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No

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My defence was standard no paperwork:

1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information.

3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant.

4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited.
 
5. On the xx/xx/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the xx/xx/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is
yet to respond. To date, xx/xx/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request.

6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14,
therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to:
(a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and
(b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974
(c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and
(d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim;

7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed.

8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974.

9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. 
....................

They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN, Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location

To re-iterate and highlight my urgent question on this one:

The N24 from the court did not include any instructions to submit paperwork 28 days before the date, unlike the N157 received for other smaller claims.

Do I have to submit a WS for this court date? (Link has!)... for a claim that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again.

Court date 25 May 2024

The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days..

BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it!

making me think I do need to!??

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3 hours ago, Badtimes123 said:

" at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case"

Thats because this claim has not been allocated as yet hence the above hearing *Case Management " to determine the directions (N157 Notice of allocation) which will follow after this hearing.

You are not requested to submit a statement but have all the details with you (claim form defence CPR CCA etc etc)

 

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Thanks for responding Andy, that was my understanding when receiving the N24, mild panic when I got Link's WS for the date though! not sure why they would send me theirs..

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Did the N24 invite either party to submit a statement ?

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No Andy, I'll scan, redact and upload later today.

So the court sent me 2 letters, same envelope and stapled together but with different dates!.

1. N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, stating:

UPON considering the papers herein

IT IS ORDERED THAT

The claim is listed for an attended hearing 25 May....... at which court will consider allocation..  etc

 

2. N24 Notice of PTR/Adjnd/Restored/Hrg/Management conference

TAKE NOTICE that the hearing will take place on 24 May at.......

When you should attend

30 minutes has been allowed for the Hearing

 

No other instructions anywhere in the envelope or on the letters.

Do I attend both?

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There will only be one hearing (typo possibly 25th is a Saturday Courts closed ) clarify with the court.

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Confirmed with Central Contact Centre that the hearing is 24th, disappointed I can't speak directly with the local county court

I have to email the local court apparently is the only way.

The agent couldn't explain the discrepancy between the two letters, she sounded very confused.

If they were identical letters in wording but only dates were different I would feel ok, slightly worried the wording differs...

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2. Is correct disregard 1.

You must attend as per the order 

 

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