DCAs filing Dormant Company Accounts

[stivis]

I am new to this forum , however I have been looking up varios DCA registered at Companies House , and have found that there are a fair few filing Dormant Company Accounts with Companies House , As I did not have too much information to go on , I have a receipt from a company , and enquired to Companies House and have been told that they have filed DCA since the company was founded in 1996 , My receipt is dated .20/11/2003

 

what I am suggesting is if you have details of a DCA with the company number, look it up on Companies house web site and if registered Dormant ....Stick them in ....It is fraudulent trading

[Guest The Terminator]

I am new to this forum , however I have been looking up varios DCA registered at Companies House , and have found that there are a fair few filing Dormant Company Accounts with Companies House , As I did not have too much information to go on , I have a receipt from a company , and enquired to Companies House and have been told that they have filed DCA since the company was founded in 1996 , My receipt is dated .20/11/2003

 

what I am suggesting is if you have details of a DCA with the company number, look it up on Companies house web site and if registered Dormant ....Stick them in ....It is fraudulent trading

 

We've found a few and there constantly being brought to everyone's attention.

[stivis]

Are there other postings regarding this , and is any thing being done about it ?

[Bailiffchaser]

What is probably happening is they are usng a t/a as a collection service etc. If you could name the ompany i will gladly go after it nd make sure it is struck off etc.

[stivis]

Triton Credit Services Ltd

Co number 03275895

 

I had a few more when I looked them up yesterday

[Bailiffchaser]

could you pm with your email add as i will need a copy of your reciept. I m just ****ed of with the way a dca can get away with murder.

[Guest The Terminator]

What is probably happening is they are usng a t/a as a collection service etc. If you could name the ompany i will gladly go after it nd make sure it is struck off etc.

 

There's quite a few on the Mercers thread once I've found the link to a bank then I will be more than happy to give you and everyone else a list then as well as getting them struck off I'm sure HMRC may well take an interest as well

[albbyswife]

hi whats this about dca companys ??? i dont understand what its about!!! is it that the companyies arent registered and so then they cant go after you for debt????

[Flagg913]

I read in another thread that Capquest are dormant, I don't understand what it means though, Like albbyswife said does it mean they can't or should'nt chase you for the debt.

 

I think they may be a lot of people maybe being a bit confused to what this actually means, if anyone could take time to help it would be much appreciated.

[stivis]

DCA means Dormant Company Accounts.. which means that they have not traded. and have submitted accounts which are usually the share capital only . It also means that they have not taken any money in NOR have they spent any , I have a Dormant company as I was going to start up , but health prevents me , I submit an annual return and a set of DCA accounts and also pay the fee,

the thing that is more important is that the income that they make by being dormant , COULD mislead the Inland Revenue to believe that they have no income (as they are not trading)and are not liable for tax

there are a few other things is the bank account , they could say that they have none, so where does the money go, Into a different bank account ( possibility of laundering here)

This one is another point that they have a registered Accountancy Firm, and THEY know what is going on

 

they can't or shouldn't chase

it means If you paid them £1. it goes into their bank , and they no longer are dormant

and you can bet your bibby that someone has , I paid them £2500 , and that should be registered somewhere

 

 

I'm sure HMRC may well take an interest as well

they will know tomorrow

[Guest The Terminator]

What is dormant a company?

 

1. What does 'dormant' mean?

 

The term 'dormant' applies to a company that, in legal terms, has 'no significant accounting transactions' during a financial year. It is not the same as a 'non-trading company', a term that has no legal meaning. No significant accounting transactions means no entries in the company's accounting records. The amount paid for shares when the company is first formed and a few costs that the company may incur in order to keep the company registered at Companies House do not count as significant accounting transactions. There is more information about these allowable transactions at question 1 in chapter 3.

 

2. What is the difference between a non-trading company and a dormant company?

 

A company can be non-trading in the sense that it isn't doing business. But it may still have other accounting transactions going through its books, which means that it is not dormant in a legal sense. A dormant company must not have any accounting transactions except specific allowable transactions that can be disregarded, see chapter 3.

 

3. Why have a dormant company?

 

Companies can be dormant for various reasons, often to protect a company name, in readiness for a future project, or to hold an asset or intellectual property. Some flat management companies whose main purpose is to own the head lease or the freehold of a property choose to become dormant by setting up a residents' association to deal with any expenses.

 

A company can remain dormant for as long as necessary - indefinitely if, for example, its purpose it just to prevent the name being used by another company. However, there are expenses associated with keeping a company on the register. In particular, there is an annual document-processing fee payable on delivery of an annual return (Form 363s). The fee is £30 (or £15 for users of our Software Filing or WebFiling services). While the company is dormant, various other documents and annual company balance sheets must still be prepared and filed at Companies House. The company will have to decide how expenses will be met and who will run the company and be responsible for ensuring that all the legal requirements are met.

 

4. Who runs a dormant company?

 

If it is to remain dormant, a company cannot have paid employees because their wages would have to be recorded in the accounting records. However, all companies, including those that are dormant, must have:

• at least one director for a private company (two directors for a public company); and
  
• a company secretary.

A sole director cannot also be the company secretary. There must be at least two officers of the company.

 

5. What responsibilities do the officers of a dormant company have?

 

The responsibilities of a dormant company's officers are the same as for those of a trading company. The directors and secretary manage the company on behalf of the shareholders or members. Among other things, they are responsible for holding meetings and ensuring that all the necessary returns, accounts and other documents reach Companies House by the due date.

 

Further information about directors' and secretaries' responsibilities for delivering documents to Companies House is available in our booklet, 'Directors and Secretaries Guide'.

 

6. What happens if documents are not delivered to Companies House?

 

The company's officers could be prosecuted because they are personally responsible for ensuring that documents are delivered on time. Failing to do so is a criminal offence. In addition, there will always be an automatic civil penalty for filing accounts late.

 

Companies House could also reasonably assume that the company is no longer required and strike it from the register. If a company is struck off the register, it ceases to exist and its assets become Crown property.

 

Further information about this is available in our booklet, 'Strike-off, Dissolution and Restoration' (or 'Strike-off, Dissolution and Restoration (Scotland)' for companies registered in Scotland).

 

7. What if the company is no longer required?

 

If you decide that you do not need your dormant company, you can arrange to have it struck off the register. There are two ways of doing this:

• if the company has no debts or other liabilities, you may be able to apply for 'voluntary striking-off and dissolution' without going through formal insolvency proceedings; or
  
• if the company has affairs to wind up, then the company can be put into 'voluntary liquidation'.

It was easier to take it off of CH website.

[stivis]

I stand reasonably corrected , more or less money should not be passing through the bank account , OK I allow the £30 for filing , But in my case I've just paid it out my pocket (personally)

[Guest The Terminator]

I stand reasonably corrected , more or less money should not be passing through the bank account , OK I allow the £30 for filing , But in my case I've just paid it out my pocket (personally)

 

That's a very good way at looking at it.

[stivis]

Both the Inland Revenue and the Customs and Excise( and in this case it is 2 separate bodies) as well as Companies House . are well interested in Triton, If there are any more that are trading and are dormant , please speak up

[Flagg913]

Capquest and mercers i believe are showing as dormant. When i get some spare time i'll run through a few and have a look who is dormant.

[version302003]

concilia debt recovery no longer exists and is dormant also is not on the dpa register.(changed name in mar 06 to first revenue assurance which is also dormant)

They are still trading(sending letters and answering the phone using the name concilia debt recovery)

 

They work for United Utilities plc

 

Company No. 03325275

[stivis]

Thats now on the list

any more ?

[nicsussex]

Viking collection Sevices Ltd (Aka GE Money!)

 

Company No. 00508834

[stivis]

mercers could do with full title and company number

 

and also a firm I think is called H L Solicitors Ltd

 

can't find it but that maybe the wrong name ........

Also please note solicitors are generally LLP companies

Limited

Liability

Partnerships....... If Ltd check them out

[Bailiffchaser]

mercers are barclays bank.

[andrew1]

Just bear in mind that just because a Limited company has filed Dormant Accounts at Companies House doesn't mean that they cannot be trading now. Dormant accounts need to be filed within 10 months of the last trading year. If a company was previously Dormant during say April 2004 - April 2005 accounts filed in February 2006 ( which is what you'd be seeing if you searched them now) would still show the company as 'Dormant' even though they may have begun trading from May 2005 as it will be in February 2007 before the first years trading accounts would appear at Companies House for the world and his dog to see. So don't get too excited if you only see Dormant Accounts it's when they began trading that is important.

[stivis]

Not be be blunt about this , I am bright enough to e mail companies house and find out the period that they have been dormant ....I KNOW how dormant account should be done .

Example If dormant since 1996 .....and they are trading .That is a naughty

 

Is this mercers?

MERCERS DEBT COLLECTIONS LIMITED

CITYPOINT

ONE ROPEMAKER STREET

LONDON

EC2Y 9SS

Company No. 02550639

[andrew1]

Not be be blunt about this , I am bright enough to e mail companies house and find out the period that they have been dormant ....I KNOW how dormant account should be done .

Example If dormant since 1996 .....and they are trading .That is a naughty

 

Is this mercers?

MERCERS DEBT COLLECTIONS LIMITED

CITYPOINT

ONE ROPEMAKER STREET

LONDON

EC2Y 9SS

Company No. 02550639

 

It wouldn't matter if they'd been dormant since 19'0'6. If they only started trading recently (in the last 18-22 months) then their accounts would not show them as trading as they don't need to file the actual trading figures until 10 months after the first years trading. The physical 'company' could have been set up years ago but never used and bought 'off the shelf' as they say and just filed dormant accounts throughout those years. Mercers may have begun using it more recently thereby activating it.

 

I don't know Mercers so I can't comment on that.

[Guest The Terminator]

Point is that on the CH site they are down as a non trading company and are registered with the IC as a data controller.

[Sparkie1723]

Hi there Bailliff CHaser

 

I got one for you, Reliable Collections Ltd are chasing people for money all over the place.

Their Company registration No is 00707759

Reg Address 36 Houldsworth St M/Chester M1 1AG.........BUT the address they have supplied the ICO on license No Z7092708 as a Data Processor is

36 Hilton St M/Chester M1 2EH.

Now

1... They are filing dormant accounts.

2... They are either incorrectly registerd as as data processor....or

3....They have failed to inform the Registrar of Companies of a change of Registerd address, one or the other are wrong

 

what do you think????

 

 

Sparkie1723