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Friends MET/QDR/dcbl PCN PAPLOC - out of bay - 7 mins stop - The Brewery, Romford **RESOLVED**


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MET are historically not very litigious but they are going through a phase ATM of issuing claim forms.  The good news is that concerning the last one, once it was defended properly they wet themselves and discontinued.

No guarantee of course.

HB beat me to it.  There's no point you getting brilliantly genned up on legal arguments and how to fight the claim, if a completely different person will be in court. The Number One reason court cases are lost here is because the defendant won't deal with their own case.

Please fill in HB's sticky.  dx100uk will be on shortly to advise how to start the defence process.

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Answers in blue text. 

Which Court have you received the claim from ? CIVIL NATIONAL BUSINESS CENTRE

ame of the Claimant :  MET Parking Services Ltd         

Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Ltd

Date of issue – 23 Feb 2024

Date for AOS - 12 March 2024

Date to submit Defence - 26 March 2024

What is the claim for  

1. The defendant (D) is indebted to the Claimant (C) for a Parking Charge(s) issued to vehicle XXXXXXX at (159) The Brewery, Romford, RM1 1AU. 

2. The PCN(s) were issued on 07/06/2021

3. The defendant is pursued as the driver of the vehicle for breach of the terms on the signs (the contract). Reason: Out of Bay

4. In the alternative the defendant is pursued as the keeper pursuant to POFA 2012, Schedule 4.

AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS

1. £170 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages.

2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of £.01 until judgement or sooner payment.

3. Costs and court fees

Amount Claimed £208.44

court fees £35.00

legal rep fees £50.00

Total Amount £293.44

Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? (y/N - if Y state Date too) N

Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? Y but received over 2 months prior to claim form. Didn't complete any of the pack just sent a snotty letter as detailed below.

Letter of Claim received on 13 December 2023

Snotty letter sent on 08 January 2024

Response from DCB Legal received on 17 January 2024

Claim form issued 23 February 2024

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have you filed aos?

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 I do not hold any legal qualification.

Nothing I say is meant as or should be taken as legal advice.

 

 

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yes aos

defend all

juris untick

no don't need to repload i didn't see its my error dw

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 I do not hold any legal qualification.

Nothing I say is meant as or should be taken as legal advice.

 

 

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pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform.
[if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time]
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When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.

Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word.

You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.

You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email. <<**IMPORTANT**

 then log in to the bulk court Website
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 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
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 then using the details required from the claimform
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defend all
leave jurisdiction unticked
 you DO NOT file a defence at this time
[BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ]
click thru to the end
confirm and exit the website

.get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim

type your name ONLY

no need to sign anything

.you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.

you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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It's just a standard template letter, so fine.

As for the landowner - I doubt it as the "offence" was in June 2021.

What about the point made by HB and me that you are not the defendant in this case?  It is the defendant who needs to get genned up on legal arguments as they will be in court, not you, the Number One reason court cases are lost here is because the defendant is never here and uses "on behalf of".

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Thanks FTMDave, will send letter tomorrow. 

I'm going to speak to the defendant and stress that they need to be part of this process now. 

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Dear all, 

Apologies for delay updating the thread.

My friend did not respond to me directly.

However, I have now discovered they paid the invoice rather than being prepared to go to court. 

Please accept my apologies for time wasted. 

JK

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Friends MET/QDR/dcbl PCN PAPLOC - out of bay - 7 mins stop - The Brewery, Romford **RESOLVED**

You haven't wasted our time at all - thanks for coming back and letting us know.

It's pure speculation but perhaps if your friend had dealt with their own case here they might have understood the legal situation better.

It makes no sense to pay months & months before the hearing.  In the last two MET court claims we have here MET bottled it and discontinued a few weeks before the hearing.

Even if it had got to a hearing, and even if MET had won, the judge would have disallowed the £70 Unicorn Food Tax MET made up plus a chunk of the interest.

 

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For the benefit of anyone else who finds this thread in the future ...

... today in rocky_sharma's case, which was at Witness Statement stage, MET bottled and discontinued.  They have done the same thing in three successive court cases now.

This disgusting company regularly starts court claims - even through they have no intention whatsoever of actually proceeding to a hearing.  They hope that a lot of motorists will be terrified of the idea of going to court and will give in.  Sadly they are presumably right as they keep doing the same thing.  It's a numbers game to them.

The last three Caggers who were sued fought back and defended the claims - and MET didn't have the guts to continue.

I think the lesson is obvious.

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