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    • Sounds good. Beware you will likely get interest at 4% as I am yet to see a single court give out 8%
    • Thanks @jk2054 I'll incorporate your feedback in #199 into the WS. I'll stick to just the claim value and interest, as I understand that it is not simple to quantify other expenses such as time spent, lost work, etc.
    • It doesn't need to but it makes no difference.   What you will find is that if the judge finds in your favour, they will award the sum and ask you if you want anything else, it is at that point you claim interest and your expenses (if applicable) such as lost work etc
    • Just a few suggestions -  I wouldn't be listing the attachments in your index. Just say exhibits then have a page of an exhibit index right before the exhibits start move the defendant's evidence bit above the the previousy reported cases. I believe if you look at the macbook case, you will see similar I also think for the issues in dispute and not in should be short bullet points not full on sentences (for example point. 8 paragraph 3 isnt an issue in dispute or not its just an explanation - the list of dispute/not in dispute should be short and concise. Information about the points should be in your wintess statement. Also on page 3 you switch between bulet points and numbers, I think you shoud be using numbers throughout so you can refer to it much easier.  Also I'm not sure why you have put your issues in dispute as part of your witness statement. I would be putting this as a seperate page before your witness statement. point 25  - I would add something that says something similar to "The Defendant cannot rely on a contract they have not provided to exclude their liability" I also see lots of switching between I and the claimant. Its a mere point of how it reads but I think you should stick to one or the other not use them interchangeably. Also, I would say that your WX should have your name at the bottom above the signature. I'd also change the wording on page 8 to be just "Exhibits to witness statement of YOUR NAME" Just my thoughts and vast majority are just about the formation rather than the content
    • Hi, yes i did claim interest in the particulars of claim. I just thought it needed to also be mentioned in the WS - if it doesn't need to be in WS, then happy to take it out. @jk2054 yes, blue font is only used in the draft WS so the amends are easily visible. Final version of WS will be in black font.
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Well aren’t I glad I came across this at 2:30am not having been able to sleep/concentrate/parent for a week.

Received the dreaded letter from HMRC about a telephone interview as youngest child’s dad listed at address. I have been seriously stupid for the last 6 years and not been honest as I lost my eldest daughter father and always worried about being financially stable incase anything happened with my youngest father. We don’t particularly get on but have a joint mortgage, I feel so guilty for not stopping claim sooner!

Anyway, I have the call next week and it only stipulated a 4 month period earlier this year in the letter. I am dreading them asking for bank statements as we share everything down the middle he sends me money and likewise.

do I say about the past 6 years or the dates in hand at the moment? I am actually in tears every moment thinking I am going to jail etc. it is ALOT of money I will owe in excess 30k . 

has anyone been told to come in for an interview under caution for these calls? Also, the penalty of £3,000 for every year - how likely is this on top of paying pack every penny I owe??


worry I will lose my job and everything. 

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Hello, welcome to CAG.

Please stop thinking about prison, we haven't seen anyone get a prison sentence. Everybody has been asked to make an affordable monthly payment towards what has been overclaimed.

From our experience on here, tax credits aren't fierce and are usually pretty understanding. It's best to tell the truth whether or not it's an IUC because as you say, if they ask for bank statements they'll know anyway.

Have a read around our HMRC forum at all the other cases here and their outcomes. I'll move this thread to HMRC.

Best, HB

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Thanks for your response but a quick google search brings up pages and pages of cases whereby people have went to court/sentenced for tax credit fraud alone. 



A Rosyth woman has been ordered to pay back more than £47,000 after being convicted of benefit fraud. Toni...

Such a worry. Why do some people get away with it and others don’t?

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I can only go by our experience here which is that we haven't seen anyone get a prison sentence.

Please try not to pre-judge what will happen, it'll just make you feel worse. You can be open and honest on the phone call and show them that you're a good person who made a bad judgement call.


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Thanks - it’s just so hard to keep calm. Feel like I am going crazy. I was feeling better reading people’s post but the Google searches tip me over the edge everytime. 

if anyone has any positive stories would love to hear them. Just feel like i know I was in the wrong but feel I will be the unlucky one they pick to take all the way through courts…

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Stop doing the Google searches!

Each case reviewed by HMRC is going to be different as they cover different circumstances.

You just have to provide all of the information requested.

Prosecution is very rare because it costs money to go through the Courts process, when they could just calculate the debt and arrange repayment of amount owed over a long period.

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Yes I am just quite happy to pay it back but I honestly don’t know if that will be an option either. Just have the keep everything crossed I suppose. Just want a full nights sleep. Affecting my whole life, kids lives as they don’t understand why I am so down. But know it is of course my fault. 

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