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Hello, I hope you can help with this!


First, a heads up: the difficulty might be that we’ve only found out about the parking fine after more than a year. This is because the car in question was still registered to a house we own but which we haven’t lived in. We’ve now updated the address, and this lovely letter has today appeared.


It’s a Letter of Claim for parking in the private Shepherd Street car park in Liverpool on 14th September 2021. 

I paid at the end of the stay, using their card machine, and obviously paid the amount displayed in full. I have the transaction in my bank statements.


I’m aware that the car park is known for exactly this problem. There’s a thread here from someone who was fined for parking there apx a fortnight after we were there, and I note the comments in that thread on inadequate phrasing of signs. We don’t have access to photos of signs from 2021 and the ones in that thread are no longer available. 

There’s more about the same problems in this article too: 


Mark and Gillian Edwards were 'shocked' when they opened the letter



Having said this, my partner in particular isn’t the type of person to take the chance of an appearance in court going wrong, or to send irate letters in the hope of avoiding court. 

Please can you help? 

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Thanks so much for this. 


If they have no power to fine people then how are they getting away with saying they’re working in partnership with bailiffs ‘as seen on tv’. This is on the letter they’ve sent. What a world we live in. Anyway…


I don’t have a claim form, just a Letter of Claim, so can’t answer many of the questions on the form. I’m also not sure about registering an MCOS at this stage?We’re wary of doing anything official until we’ve had advice. I’ve attached a photo of the letter as a doc, though. And this is the form with the answers I can give:


Which Court have you received the claim from ? 
I can’t see a court mentioned in the letter



If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)



Name of the Claimant :

ParkingEye Ltd T/A Car Parking Partnership


Claimants Solicitors: 

DCB Legal


Date of issue – 

Letter is dated 04 Jan 2022 (I don’t know when the original letter/s would date to)


What is the claim for  

The vehicle with registration number ———- ("Vehicle") was parked on private land ("Land") managed by our Client. The signs displayed on the Land set out the Terms of parking (i.e. "the Contract"). The Vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms and as such the Contract was accepted and a PCNs) was issued. You are liable as the Keeper or Driver. The details of the PCN(s) can be found in the schedule at the bottom of this letter. Payment was due within 28 days of the PCN(s) being issued but remains outstanding.”



What is the value of the claim?





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Thank you very, very much for this. I’ll talk with my partner about it tomorrow and get moving on it. 🙏 

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