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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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I contacted the forum about a month ago to say that I was helping a friend to claim back the bank charges over the last 6 years that have effectively forced her to close her small shop.

We received the first lot of statements from one of the banks last week (I won't say which one until I know more about her chances in this case).

So far I have worked out the charges for 01,02 and 03, and it stands at just over £8,000, so it's fair to say that the final figure is going to be over £10,000.

At no time in this period was she more than £3,000 overdrawn, sometimes agreed, sometimes not. It was as if the bank waited for the slack periods then pulled away the overdraft facility (it's a seasonal business and the high periods more than make up for the low).

Now that the total is going to be above the Small Claims threshold how do we go about chasing them for the money. We don't want to let them get away with all of this money by settling for less that £5,000 because getting this back could help the business back on it's feet, and pay off some of the outstanding debts that have accrued.

Any advice about this will be greatly appreciated.

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The procedure is no different at all - it just means your claim will (probably) be allocated to the fast track. With that carries a slight theoretical costs risk, but also some benefits too. Many claimants have been successful with claims as large as yours, or in some cases even larger.

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I contacted the forum about a month ago to say that I was helping a friend to claim back the bank charges over the last 6 years that have effectively forced her to close her small shop.

We received the first lot of statements from one of the banks last week (I won't say which one until I know more about her chances in this case).

So far I have worked out the charges for 01,02 and 03, and it stands at just over £8,000, so it's fair to say that the final figure is going to be over £10,000.

At no time in this period was she more than £3,000 overdrawn, sometimes agreed, sometimes not. It was as if the bank waited for the slack periods then pulled away the overdraft facility (it's a seasonal business and the high periods more than make up for the low).

Now that the total is going to be above the Small Claims threshold how do we go about chasing them for the money. We don't want to let them get away with all of this money by settling for less that £5,000 because getting this back could help the business back on it's feet, and pay off some of the outstanding debts that have accrued.

Any advice about this will be greatly appreciated.

 

As far as I'm aware the thresholds for the track allocation are only guidance. You can still ask for it to be kept in small claims and the judge may agree as the legal issues at stake are not particularly unusual. Penalties are long settled law and the Courts are used to dealing with them.

 

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Northern Rock; S.A.R sent 11/8/06 - Delivered. Recieved details of 6 yrs charges on 8th. Wrote back asking whether or not they hold information going back further than that.

MBNA; S.A.R sent 11/8/06 - Delivered 14/8/06

Barclays; S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request sent 11/8/06 - Del 14/8/06

Diners Club; S.A.R sent 11/8/06 - Delivered 14/8/06. Recieved form to fill and return with fee on 17/8/06. Sent form back, delivered 4/9/06.

Intelligent Finance; Prelim letter emailed 16/08/06, claiming £318. Email recieved from "Anne-Marie" 17/8/06 saying my email has been passed to Customer Relations dept. Fob-off letter received 23/8/06, letter sent in return same day - Delivered 24/8/6 Recieved letter offer 25% settelement - refused - LBA sent. MCOL on 10th revcieved notification that they intend to defend on 13th. 06/9/2006 WON!!!!!!

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Thank you GaryH and PhantomReclaimer.

You have put my mind at ease and I shall carry on adding up the next 3 years.

Hopefully the bank will receive the initial claim in the Christmas week. That should cheer them up!

I'll put the final amount of the claim on here when I've totalled up.

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Thank you GaryH and PhantomReclaimer.

You have put my mind at ease and I shall carry on adding up the next 3 years.

Hopefully the bank will receive the initial claim in the Christmas week. That should cheer them up!

I'll put the final amount of the claim on here when I've totalled up.

Thanks

 

Your other course of action would be to try and negotiate a partial settlement with the bank to get the amount under 15K thereby avoiding the multi-track route and suing for the balance later on.

 

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Northern Rock; S.A.R sent 11/8/06 - Delivered. Recieved details of 6 yrs charges on 8th. Wrote back asking whether or not they hold information going back further than that.

MBNA; S.A.R sent 11/8/06 - Delivered 14/8/06

Barclays; S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request sent 11/8/06 - Del 14/8/06

Diners Club; S.A.R sent 11/8/06 - Delivered 14/8/06. Recieved form to fill and return with fee on 17/8/06. Sent form back, delivered 4/9/06.

Intelligent Finance; Prelim letter emailed 16/08/06, claiming £318. Email recieved from "Anne-Marie" 17/8/06 saying my email has been passed to Customer Relations dept. Fob-off letter received 23/8/06, letter sent in return same day - Delivered 24/8/6 Recieved letter offer 25% settelement - refused - LBA sent. MCOL on 10th revcieved notification that they intend to defend on 13th. 06/9/2006 WON!!!!!!

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Something worth bearing in mind, is that if you wish to limit your liability in terms of potential costs, then you would need to keep the claim in fast or small claims track.

 

As you are aware I'm sure costs are generally not available in small claims and with some exceptions, are limited to 750 in fast track.

 

If your claim were to be suitable for allocation to multi track i.e. above £15K, then any and all costs can be awarded should you loose your claim. This is bad, very bad because when i say any and all i mean just that, so its obviously something worth thinking about.

 

Re the value of your claim theres a CPR rule, cant remember the number offhand, but it basically says that for the purposes of allocation to track that interest is not considered. This seems quite straight forward, however, i had information from a judge where this wasn't highlighted and then further info from a former solicitor who told me their view was that this was aimed entirely at Sec 69 interest and not contractual interest.

 

So with this claim being in the region you mention i presume without interest you have some issues to address before deciding on the direction you wish to take.

 

You will no doubt get told you can split your claim to keep it below the £5K threshold and you can indeed do this. However, if you don't have a good reason to do this then any subsequent claims may be at risk from a claim of vexatious litigation i believe.

 

JMHO

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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As others have said the values often quoted in relation to track allocation are for the guidance of the courts and therefore in theory at least claims significantly outside of the thresholds could be allocated to a higher or lower track.

 

As far as I have seen there have been cases where claims have been 'up' or 'down' graded dependant on the judge doing the allocation.

 

However, if the claim naturally falls within a particular track then you can ask if the claim is allocated to a higher track that the costs rules of the 'right' track are adopted.

 

I have seen claims where this has happened.

 

All in all the decision about the size of the claim and hence the track you aim are up to you.

 

You can of course put the claim in for the full amount and argue for small claims based on the straight forward nature of the claim.

 

I was told by a judge that if i didn't like the track my claim was allocated to based on its value ie if it was allocated to multi track, i could apply to reduce the claim below the 15K threshold. However, there is no obligation on the part of the courts to allow this even though i understand its unlikely they would refuse to allow the amendment.

 

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Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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Thanks for that Glenn,

I've just come up with the final figure, £13,750.

I've done a cumulative comparison of the totals of the bank charges/overdraft. Amazing! Apart from the first couple of entries back in 2001, at no time did the amount of the overdraft catch up with the cumulative bank charges. So, the bank kept her in the red, and battling to keep her head above water, to the detriment of her business and her health.

And they do sleep at night!

 

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Dont forget contractual interest as well!

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

Abbey 1st claim -Charges repaid, default removed, interest paid (8% apr) costs paid, Abbey peed off; priceless

Abbey 2nd claim, two Accs - claim issued 30-03-07

Barclaycard - Settled cheque received

Egg 2 accounts ID sent 29/07

Co-op Claim issued 30-03-07

GE Capital (Store Cards) ICO says theyve been naughty

MBNA - Settled in Full

GE Capital (1st National) Settled

Lombard Bank - SAR sent 16.02.07

MBNA are not your friends, they will settle but you need to make sure its on your terms -read here

Glenn Vs MBNA

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I have bank charges going back to when I was 18 and at the time there were apparently no restriction on number of charges per day/ per month so they were really high, getting the statements down from the loft, thankfully i'm a horder! Had to take a loan out to pay them off to get them off my back- by their recommendation, great start to being an adult, still paying it all now as a result!

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