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    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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Hello!

 

Two very similar issues here which affect my OH and which I have noted are happening to other BAG members.

 

Plat Credit Card is in arrears and not been paid fully for three months. Just a basic nominal amount of £25 for each of the three months. Default notice has now been issued. Prior to the current situation for two months we were paying the minimum amount due plus a bit more. The only charges to the account were the interest and late payment charges (due date and pay day don't meet up). Since the minimal payment situation only charges to the account are still late pament, over credit limit and interest. Interestingly enough the default letter was dated the same day as the standard reply following request for repayment of charges on current account.

 

Current Account has an overdraft facility. OH had discussions with the CCCS they said to put money in parachute account (LTSB were just taking whatever payments for their loan and CC and bouncing DD's etc and charging us!) Only charges on the account since moving salary to new parachute account have been O/D interest and the standard account fee. The default letter arrived today demanding repayment of the £4100 within 10 days or court action. The CCCS had advised to only pay £1 per month which is what was happening and standard letter from CCCS was issued. No reply was received from LTSB agreeing or disagreeing to this strategy. However since they have had the refund of payment letter from us thay now seem to wish to play hard ball.

 

My question is this....

 

We have not asked for DPA yet for either of these accounts as we had all the statements. What should we be doing now?

 

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Well the standard question here is is how much are the charges?

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Hi!

 

Need to do the CC one. Had held off as they agreed if I paid £30 per week for 5 weeks or the full £150 within the 5 weeks they would write off the rest of the overdue debt. Was waiting to see if they held to their end of the bargain before I proceeded. They have since issued the Default notice (13 days after entering the agreement with me) and I am due to pay the full £150 on Tuesday. I would estimate the charges to be about £200

 

On the current account the charges are £657.

 

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LOULA

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Just added up the CC = £370 and I don't have all the statements, there are about 5 missing.

 

The amount they are due to 'write-off' is about £150.

 

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So I gather they are claiming about £4000 from you or which about £1000 is charges and they are threatening to sue you.

 

I would tend to wait and let them bring the action. You can then challenge them on the £1000 charges. As they will definitely want take you to court for the remaining 3000 they will probably drop the claim for the 1000 pretty quickly as they will not want to be forced to prove lawfulness of the charges in court.

 

I'm not too sure why you are asking about section 10 notice in this question

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