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and more on Wragg, who has been allowed to resign the Tory whip, rather than be fired with a loss of all (taxpayer funded) benefits

(and thats just resign from the Tory party and his preferential seats on committees NOT as a taxpayer funded MP)

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Tory who admitted giving colleagues’ numbers to scammer poses for photo with security detail pinned up behind him

‘Honeytrap’ MP William Wragg accidentally reveals WiFi password during photoshoot

 

Incompetence aside, Seems basic justice that he should be sacked with loss of all benefits and prosecuted.

He quite deliberately gave MPs contact details to a clearly criminal and/or foreign power actor,

and he knew and has briefed what he should have done. NO excuses.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

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Eat your heart out @theoldrouge

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Pact involves cutting security waiting times but also increasing numbers sent back

The package of bills agreed promises to cut times for security and asylum procedures and increase returns to reduce unwanted immigration from the Middle East and Africa, a high priority on the EU’s agenda.

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

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.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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I see the Brexit-ish are again delaying  implementing their 'grate deal' 'protecting the UKs borders' that they pressed through with the wholehearted support of MPs like smugg - who is now one of the main moaners saying this inflation raising and business destroying 'great deal'  shouldn't be implemented.

Of course 3 of the benefits of NOT implementing the Brexitish grate deal as the Brexitish negotiated are:

 

1. Less UK businesses will collapse

2. UK inflation NOT increased by 0.6% (hence fiddling the figures to us scraping NOT being in a Brexit generated recession)

3. The problems will be dumped in labours lap after the GE

 

"Analysis by specialist credit insurance firm Allianz Trade said the removal of tariffs on the goods would reduce inflation by 0.6 percentage points, and cut import costs by close to 7 billion pounds ($8.8 billion) in nominal terms."

 

WWW.REUTERS.COM

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-economy-grows-by-01-february-2024-04-12/

 

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According to reports, Britain faces a £2 billion post-Brexit bill on European food imports from the end of the month.

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Oh - and dont forget - under WTO RULES - NOT applying tariffs has to apply to EVERYONE who doesn't have an alternate 'deal' - and most of which existing deals will undoubtedly be cancelled if its to the other parties benefit unless the UK unilaterally drop them

The UK doesn't apply tariffs as the Brexitish are incompetent - but other countries can - What a bonus for foreigners eh Brexitish?

- all as obvious and stated years ago in the other thread.

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Slots for elephant hunters in Botswana coming up isn't there?

Only circa $45,000 dollars cost per safari - much cheaper than Rwanda eh?

 

I see the ANDERSON family is still trying up his cost .. and charge the tories

 

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The Conservative party have launched an investigation into the Tory councillor after her husband and Ashfield MP for Reform posted the...

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

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Can someone clarify the difference  between 'National Conservatism' and 'National Socialism'?

as they both seem to clearly promote racial hate and dictators among many other similarities .. its long been the case - its even the name coming out from hiding now

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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You cant fault her loyalty, I mean, the extremes shes gone to to ensure Johnson the corrupt incompetent liar doesn't stand out alone and head, shoulders and buttocks above all others as the worst PM in UK history.

- presumably paving the path to his imminent return with the new slogan 'could be worse, could be Truss'

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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and another one

 

MP Mark Menzies loses Tory whip as party investigates claims he misused funds

"According to a source close to Mr Menzies, the MP had met a man on an online dating website and gone to the man’s flat, before subsequently going with another man to a second address where he continued drinking. He was sick at one point and several people at the address demanded £5,000, claiming it was for cleaning up and other expenses."

The sum, which rose to £6,500, was eventually paid by his office manager from her personal bank account and subsequently reimbursed from funds raised from donors

 

Never mind losing whip - how about criminal charges

 

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The Fylde MP is alleged to have used campaign funds to pay off ‘bad people’ and cover medical expenses

 

ALSO According to the The Times, £14,000 given by donors for use on Tory campaign activities was transferred to Mr Menzies’ personal bank accounts and used for private medical expenses.

The MP, who is one of Rishi Sunak’s trade envoys, is also said to have called his 78-year-old former campaign manager at 3.15am one day in December, claiming he was locked in a flat and needed £5,000 as a matter of “life and death”.

 

Hes supposed to use funding from Taxpayers and doners for a life of service, not funding a life of drink and debauchery

Hope his parliamentary expenses are also investigated.

 

In fact, perhaps Mr Bates next role in life should be as an independent investigator of Parliamentary expenses?

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Another one. Apparently this has been hushed up for about three months. They're working through their majority quite fast with all the sackings. Not that they've done anything about Menzies yet but he sounds like a blackmail risk.

Here's the original article.

 

 

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Yep - lost whip as headline says

BUT apparently after Times article on various apparent misuses of funds was scheduled .. These actions of his uncovered by the Times were last year

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Or simply hoping they would evade/fade away from public awareness with no headlines?

 

When is a labour MP referring Jenrick to police for either breaking lockdown and lying about it and/or lying about his main residence/election registration fraud

Same with satans little helper Cummings - among a number of other tory shysters

 

.. Tory MPs without whip turning into quite a large party isnt it

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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I don't know how popular that would be now that time has passed.

I think a lot of people would be interested in trying to get back money from contracts supplying faulty PPE when they see people who had no experience in supplying it buying mansions. It's a mystery to me why Lady Moan is the only one being pursued.

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Torys seem to think its worth while - cheap muckspreading while they get away with ACTUALLY doing it?

More the aspect of ensuring that when these tactics are used without justification - make sure your people aren't doing it more and worse or their crap spread on the waters ...

- mind you, the Tories would have to maybe even ease off on their using taxpayer and donor money to fund their preferred lifestyles wouldn't they? Maybe even do the jobs they are paid for?

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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and starmer is at last calling for police investigations into blatant Tory corruption and misuse of funds

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Labour leader says police ‘should be involved’ after Tory MP was alleged to have misused campaign funds to pay off ‘bad people’

 

 

and didnt I read just yesterday some Tory saying that taxpayers would not be bailing out mismanagement by private companies - specifically water companies - yet today:

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Exclusive: Under Whitehall blueprint for water company some lenders could lose up to 40% of their money

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Given Starmer's previous job he should know whether it's a police matter or not.

It's, err, interesting that Tory HO are happy to set Greater Manchester Police on Angela Rayner for £2-3k which has already been investigated but not think it's worth calling them in to investigate Menzies.

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Possibly some good news for young people in the UK and Europe, plus universities and employers either side of the Channel.

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European Commission to seek approval from leaders to start talks with UK on visa-free exchanges for 18- to 30-year-olds

 

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wont Truss, patel and the right b-ilk be utterly opposed to any co-operating with their 'mortal enemy'?

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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Looks that way :-)

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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ah - here it is - .. Yesterday

UK finance minister: Thames Water must sort out its own issues

"I make no comment on Thames because they need to sort out their own issues," Hunt told reporters during a visit to Washington when asked what a government-led administration process for Thames Water could do for investors' confidence in Britain.
"What we're never going to do for people who invest in the UK, is say that the state is going to insure you against bad decisions made by management or shareholders. That's what markets are about."
 
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So was the chancellor not informed of this massive encompassing plan ..  or was he lying/misleading

Today:

Thames Water nationalisation plan could move bulk of £15bn debt to state

 

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Exclusive: Under Whitehall blueprint for water company some lenders could lose up to 40% of their money

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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