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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
    • Well done on reading the other threads. If ECP haven't got the guts to do court then there is no reason to pay them. From other threads there is a 35-minute free stay after which you need to pay, with the signs hidden where no-one will read them.  Which probably explains why ECP threaten this & threaten that, but in the end daren't do court. As for your employer - well you can out yourself as the driver to ECP so the hamster bedding will arrive at yours.  Get your employer to do that using the e-mail address under Appeals and Transfer Of Liability.  
    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
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Tried to apply for credit card with my bank as a way to start building credit trust. Was denied. Looked into credit report and have a CCJ on my name. 

I thought it was from an old and temporary house I was renting but they have confirmed it is not them.  As the address is registered on there on Trans Union. 

I have a case ID it says it went through County Court Business Centre. 

I am on hold now, not got through yet,

I read online that they are a shambles of a company and some people said they were online for 4 hours waiting to get through. 

What do I do now?!

I have no idea who has done this?! for the measly sum of £157!

How is this possible!!

Ruining people's lives over £157?! 

I have heard people being on hold for 4 hours???

Whilst I have to pay for it? 

Any other way because clearly they don't answer, i was on the phone for 30 mins earlier on. 

You want me to upload a PDF that they send to me?

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Trust online may give you more information who the judgment creditor is and date.  Service requires a small fee.

 

WWW.TRUSTONLINE.ORG.UK

 

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Hi, I have just got a letter in the POST from DCBL... ?!?! how have they even got my address?!

they are asking for the £150 even after the cheek of putting a CCJ on my name.... for £150!!

What do i do here?!? 

If they would take the CCJ off I would happily pay it, once I find out what the hell it;s for!

I have just seen it's for parking eye, it says it on the letter! parking eye!!!

'I was not even in the car....!!'

What are my options here?!

a 2 for nothing mob company want to spend their money to give me a ccj and ruin 6 years of my life?!

 I can contend this, I have a tenancy agreement for another house to prove I was not in the know....

Maybe I could pay this scam of a company if they removed this ccj... but no way will I unless they dont!

The letter dates June 27 2022 reads:

'if you pay in full within 30 days of receiving judgement, our client CAN apply through the court to have ccj removed"

It says on transunion that it was added in 2021, are they wrongfully misusing the English language to try to bribe me wrongfully into paying them my money?! 

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@honeybee13Yes I moved house... But no mail was fwd to me... 

I have tenancy contracts to prove my move... I moved from house where supposed ccj correspondence went 4 months before the ccj was applied..  And the first I heard was when I logged onto transunion 5 days ago..

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This sounds like what we call a backdoor CCJ on the CAG private parking forum. You don't reply to an important letter because you didn't get it and PE moved swiftly to get a judgement against you.

 

You would probably be able to get it set aside at a price, people like Andyorch and dx will be able to talk you through this.

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Backdoor PE/DCBL PCN CCJ - Now on my credit report... £150...

Please stop swearing. I've removed those ..behave. Moved to the private parking forum 

It will cost you £275 to poss get this set aside, with no guarantee of success 

It might be better to go ring dcbl and ask nicely that if you pay the ccj they remove the ccj totally 

Sadly this is somewhat of your own doing. Never move without informing all your creditors in writing.

Dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Notify? I had absolutely no idea that parking eye sent me any mail..... 

 

Should I ring dcscaml or email them?

 

If I call or maybe even email them they are going to ask me to confirm address and I don't want to do that...  What are my options?

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Where have you got the idea from you need to hide your address? That's the sole cause of why this happened.

 

Is this dcbl letter dcb legal or dcbl debt collection!

 

If the former.  Go ring dcb legal NOW offer to pay the judgement in full if they remove the ccj totally from your file. They can and have done this before.

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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@dx100uk It says DCBL debt collection ltd... no 'legal'... 

I had no idea this letter was in my old house... How would I know to inform anyone...

 

If I call them they will ask to confirm my address, I don't want to confirm anything to them as they can then tuen it on me..

 

Also I have not seen any original document which tells me where this was or pictures of the car etc???

 

If I call dcbl should I confrim my address or not? Do I have to?

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They will get hold of your address anyway through other means if you are going toi try to get thgem to remove it, might be better to confirm address, also that you had moved was backdoor etc and you might apply for Setaside with Court, but if they will pl;ay ball you will pay so long as is removed.  Others  like Andyorch and DX will have better options probably, but at this point playing hardball with them would be counterproductive.

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then dont ring dcbl dca

ring the claimant.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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just type no need to hit quote

 

its not sold on........

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no dcbl letter says...our client Parking eye.

 

PE will refer you to whomever was the solicitor stated any on the court forms.

 

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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@dx100uk 

OK can I ask you what I would be best to do here?

Call PE or DCBL?

I will pay the 159 if it is removed - although I have not yet seen any evidence to show me or my car in any wrong doing?

 

Reading this

 

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Hi everyone, I am new to posting on here so please bare with me.

How the hell has PE been able to give me a CCJ???

 

my company can apply to take ANYONE to court, if that somebody does not reply and pay me my £500 imaginary money I can just slap a ccj on them? 

 

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you, i or anyone can take anyone to county court for any sum, with little or no paperwork or proof, esp if...99% of the time people move and do not update their details to say credit reference agencies or the people once had a debt with ...so a backdoor CCJ to an old address is 99% guaranteed.

northants bulk court (robocourt) is an automated system whereby no human is ever involved until/unless the defendant acknowledges the claim within 19 days.

you dont appear to have a reason to set aside the speculative invoice, paperwork or contract wriggles are gone, the CCJ trumps that

as already explained, and as should be obvious to you from your previous threads here, it would cost you £275 to attempt a set aside and i dont see much hope.

DCBL are only powerless interlopers operation as a DCA here, not bailiffs as the debt is under their HCEO level of £600.

far cheaper to contact the claimant, they will refer you to their legal reps, whom might agree to remove the CCJ if you pay the £159.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Try PE they are the organ grinder, you can always say was backdoor and you had no Ticket, or NTK as had moved and likely DVLA had'nt  updated your details by the time the ntk was sent (you did update address for V5 and Driving Licence?) lay it on thick like if you had known etc etc you would have paid.  They might play ball.

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Trying to get through to parking eye is absolutely useless!! ****! 

Now i am forced to call dcbl... 

If they agree to remove the ccj how do I get them in a kind of confirmed agreement? So they don't snake out once I have paid?

 

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Nothing to do with dcbl DCA ignore them 

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Likely they don't answer the phone, they take great pains to avoid people phoning them with a convoluted press1, press 2 system, that makes it almost impossible to reach a human without getting cut off.

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