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PCM ANPR PCN - Overstay - Anchorwood Retail Park, Barnstaple, Devon


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A vehicle that I own but is insured for many drivers has picked up a PCN for overstaying a 2 hours free carpark (by an additional 2 hours)

 

Attached is a pdf of the notice.

 

The offence date is 28/02/22, posting date of notice 14/03/22, date notice is given 16/03/22 - does this put it beyond the 14 days i've read about?

 

Rather oddly the charge is £100 reduced to £100 if paid in 14 days, so no discount at all. I've just come back from a skiing trip so missed the 14 days anyway but would have expected a discount.

 

I have not contacted the company at all & not appealed.

 

It also says that if payment is not received within 28 days they have the right to recover the amount from the registered keeper - is that correct?

 

Please can someone advise if the notice is compliant & if i need to pay.

 

CAG have kindly helped me on a similar notice for stopping in Bristol Airport which I am still fighting - it doesn't rain it pours!

 

 

 

Anchorwood car park scan.pdf

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Do the same sticky too please....

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

(must be received within 14 days from the Incident)

 

Please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 28.02.2022

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] Date of posting 14.03.22, date notice is given 16.03.22
 

[scan up BOTH SIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

Uploaded in first post

 

3 Date received date received unknown as away on holiday  until 20.03.22

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Y
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes, entry & exit photos
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] n

 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/a

 

7 Who is the parking company? Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Anchorwood Retail Park, Barnstaple, Devon 
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

IAS
 

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Despite that they say that they are following PoFA , their PCN is not compliant. It wasn't even sent till the 14th day so it is out of time. There are other things wrong with it too but the timing kills it.

 

What that means is that the responsibility for paying the alleged debt cannot be transferred to the keeper. Only the driver is liable and there is no need for you to reveal the name of the driver even if you do you know.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to PCM ANPR PCN - Overstay - Anchorwood Retail Park, Barnstaple, Devon

What utter idiots.  So a 40% discount on £100 is now £100 is it?  It wasn't when I studied maths at school 🤣

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A discount on money that you don't owe? You're not thinking about this in the correct way.

 

If a mugger walked up to you and said "I'm doing you a favour by only taking your wallet and you can keep your watch" - would you say that was a discount?

 

You owe nothing, they can demand nothing as their NTK is out of time.

 

Ignore everything except a letter before claim but keep their free toilet paper for reference, there will be a lot of it.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Just received a Keeper Liability Notice saying that 28 days have now elapsed since their Notice To Keeper letter

 

they are now able to exercise their right under schedule 4 of Pofa to recover the charge from me. 


i categorically was not the driver & their notice was not received within 14 days of the alleged offence.

 

Should I wait until a letter before claim or save some paper & tell them this now?

 

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Yours is not the next move.

 

Dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 2 months later...

Received a letter before claim yesterday from Gladstones Solicitors.

Says pay or fill in their online dispute form.

is this the moment to state:

I am the registered keeper but categorically was not the driver.

I do not know who was driving, the vehicle is used by many.

The charge notice was not received within 14 days so is not compliant with POFA and therefore the claimant has no right to transfer the charge to me.

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Don't fill in their form, you could end up giving them information that they can use against you.

 

Do a search on CAG for a 'snotty letter'. Now is the time to let Gladdy's know that you'd be trouble if they tried taking you to court. If I'm thinking of the right law firm, most of the letters start 'Dear Will and John'.

 

HB

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You are liable to get many threatening letters from various companies. All them can be safely ignored as you were not the driver and as the keeper you are not liable  to pay anything. Just relax. You are quite safe.

In the weeks or months to come you may receive a Letter before Action or something similar. 

Do not ignore that but let us know so that we can give them a riposte that should tell them to take a hike.

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