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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Date of the infringement 21/02/2022

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] Give answer here
 

[scan up BOTH SIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

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3 Date received not too sure , I saw it 11th March 
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] No
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A
 

7 Who is the parking company? Smart Parking Ltd Unit

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Tottenham Hale Retail Park
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. IAS

 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

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If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

 

Copy the windscreen or ANPR section to your thread and answer the questions...

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In either case scan up bothsides of any letters/tickets in or appeals made out to ONE MULTIPAGE PDF ONLY

 

PCN.pdf

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do not appeal!!

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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until/unless you ever get a letter of claim.

 

10000's of PCN threads to read here

 

just read a good few 10's as selfhelp

 

you'll soon get the idea

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The PCN was issued 14 days after the alleged offence was committed. As the PCN is therefore not PoFA reliant they cannot transfer the liability of any debt from the driver to the keeper. So do not write or reveal to Smart who was driving. Should it ever get to Court Judges do not automatically assume that the keeper is the same as the driver.

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They might do, but so long as Driver not identified, they can't rely on POFA to transfer liability as they have not followed it, so if they did try court they are not guaranteed to win.

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not so smart parking rarely do court as they always make a mistake in their paperwork which blows them out the water.

 

it is worthy to note there are no smart court claims here in all our years

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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As their NTK is out of time to pass liability to the keeper do not be tempted to respond to them at all unless you get a letter before claim.

 

You will receive a shedload of threats from them and they'll tell you the cost is increasing (it cannot, beyond some very basic charges) and then you'll get threatening letters from their pet Debt Collector who in reality is the next desk along.

 

Ignore them until (if at all) you get a letter before claim and then blow them away with them not being POFA compliant to create keeper liability.

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No do not cantact them and tell them they will concoct some cock and bull story that POFA not needed and carry on with paper tiger threats even more.

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Not being PoFA compliant only means that the keeper cannot be pursued.

So that still leaves the driver responsible

 

so best not to appeal/contact them as you might reveal who was driving.

We have seen it happen so often on here.

 

Also as they cannot assume in Court that the driver and the keeper are the same person, they makes it difficult for them since anyone with a motor insurance policy is able to drive your car, plus many car owners have members of the family named on their policy.

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Very useful information,  it has helped a great deal. Today was the deadline to pay although I feel a bit nervous I will  ot respond 

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I know it sounds like an unusual approach, but we get results with it.

 

You don't seem to have read any other parking threads but if you do, you'll see how our strategy pans out. Do a search in the white box at the top of this screen, in the dark red strip. We have lots of threads about Smart.

 

HB

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I have seen one person who received a fine in the same place but will look through some more. Thank you 

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If you're calling it a fine, you haven't read enough yet. :)  It doesn't have to be the same car park, any Smart thread will give you an idea of how they operate.

 

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I now have a debt recovery letter from debt recovery plus saying I now owe £160

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and what do you do with one of those from your research??

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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