Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like

Packlink/InPost tampered with my parcel


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 768 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi,

 

My situation:

 

I sold an iPhone on eBay for £700.

I (stupidly) used eBay Packlink to purchase shipping with InPost.

 

Long story short, the parcel was tampered with. The Buyer told me the parcel arrived but the iPhone itself was not there. I suspected that the parcel box was opened, the iPhone was removed, and then the parcel box was resealed

 

. In order to get Packlink to even launch this investigation, they made me fill in a claims form where I declared the value of the item (£700). They emailed me at the start of December 2021 and told me that the parcel was tampered with

 

. They asked me to provide them with bank details to send compensation. I replied asking how much compensation I will get. I heard nothing back until today. Indeed, today they sent me the exact same email again, asking me to provide bank details.

 

I replied with my bank details. Then they sent me an automated email telling me I will be receiving £25 compensation, which is abysmal considering the value of the item is £700.. They clearly haven't used reasonable care and skill, and even their own investigation concluded that the parcel was tampered with.

 

I would please like help from this forum with chasing this up.

 

£700 is a lot of money (to me at least) and I feel completely let down and scammed by eBay, Packlink and InPost.

 

Incidentally, I have tried contacting Citizens Advice, but they haven't been all that helpful, and it seems the advice I get differs depending on who I manage to speak to on the phone which just adds to my frustration.

 

Ultimately, I would please like some advice on what my next steps should be. Should I contact InPost directly since Packlink aren't being reasonable?

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for replying and for the information I will read up.

 

Also no I didn’t pay for their insurance - and to be fair I don’t believe that I was given an option to do so.

 

I spent a minute on eBay Packlink (before buying postage) looking but there was no option presented to me.

 

There was some promotion on Packlink going on at the time with InPost, I think because I was a new eBay Packlink customer.

 

I know this is besides the point right now but still thought it was worth mentioning in the interest of giving as much context as possible.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just updating this thread to summarise my details.

 

  • I sold an iPhone (in original packaging) on eBay for £700.
  • I purchased shipping with InPost via eBay Packlink on 26th October 2021
  • I did not pay for "enhanced" insurance.
  • I dropped off the parcel (Boxed iPhone within brown "postage" box) at an InPost locker on 26th October 2021.
  • The Buyer told me (and thankfully sent me a lot of pictures) that the iPhone itself was missing from its original box, but that there was no obvious signs of tampering.
  • I contacted Packlink claiming for £700, after some back-and-forths they confirmed with me that their investigations discovered that my parcel was tampered with. They automatically refunded me £25 even though I made it clear I was after the full amount.

 

My next steps:

  • I will now Email InPost directly to make a formal claim. I will give them 10 days to reply.
  • InPost will more than likely deny responsibility and won't refund me. In which case, I will have to draft a letter of claim and begin legal process against InPost.
    • The Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 legislation allows me to begin legal proceedings against InPost (a UK registered company) and not Packlink (a Spain registered company).
  • I will continue to read this sub-forum.

 

Thanks again everyone, you have no idea how much I appreciate this.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Hey

 

Sorry it's been a while (not making excuses but had a few personal life-change events). Anyway just for the benefit of documenting and BUMPing this thread I am making this post. I continued trying with Packlink directly for a while since others on the forum had success this way. Unfortunately, they have started to completely ignore my emails now.

 

I did try appealing to eBay directly but this was pointless. Just putting this out there in case someone else is thinking of doing the same. Don't waste your time.

 

In the end, InPost (somewhat ironically) told me I should take the issue up with Hermes. Couldn't for the life of me find an email for Hermes. I managed to dig up [email protected] and sent my claim to this address but received an automatic reply immediately saying:

 

"Thank you for contacting Evri. This email address is no longer a Customer Service contact channel so if you have a question about a parcel, please visit https://www.evri.com/help-and-support/help-centre#/ where you can use our Digital Assistant, Holly, to log an enquiry with Customer Services or she will point you in the right direction."

 

Indeed I went to their live chat but obviously there's no way of actually inputting a claim. Had to jump through some automated live chat hoops before I finally found a random option that actually let me input a custom message. So I did this and the website assured me it was sent to their customer service. Also got an automated email response saying they've received the issue ticket. For good measure, I took a screen recording of my interaction with the live chat bot. Side note: don't waste your time trying to ring their customer service phone number as it is somehow worse than their live chat. Completely unhelpful automated robot.

 

A further detail with my interaction with Packlink is I sold my iPhone as a bundle: screen protector, case and iPhone. All three were individually boxed and placed into yet another box. Packlink basically said that the parcel was damaged, implying that they would have had to remove my iPhone. However, giving them the benefit of the doubt and even ignoring the fact that they would have had to do this without my concern and "disposed" of my property, the very fact is they cannot even claim this because the other two items that did arrive (screen protector and case) clearly showed no signs of damage. I know from reading the forums that this is Hermes' tactic to avoid settling with customers who have had their parcel tampered with, but nevertheless it is scary that their "customer service" can tell me the parcel was damaged but conveniently only one of the contents were removed/damaged whilst the others were not. Anyway I will end my rant there. Sorry.

 

Anyway I'll begin/continue drafting my letter of claim in anticipation that Hermes will not reply or will reject, so in 10 days I should be ready to start the county court claim process.

 

Thanks!

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...