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Hello everyone

 

I got my hearing papers for this on the 5th Feb. I'm really not sure what to do now. Rang the court and they said I had to fill in a Case Management Information Sheet - they are only in pdf format, so although I've saved it, it won't let me type anything into it. Just about to start typing it out from scratch tonight, so I can log it via email in the morning.

 

Any advice would be great. The Court said all these cases had been listed together as they were similar, in that they were all claiming monies from the banks.

 

Stevie

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Stevie,

 

Re CMI sheet:

Either look at previous messages on this thread - there is a standard CMI template that you can lift with answers already in,

or

save in pdf on your pc, then open the saved file and you should be able to save as 'text (Notepad)' document, then go into Microsoft Word and open the 'all files' Notepad and save it as a word document, then you are free to do amend the text as you wish with the document in 'Word'.

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dixie, the six years runs from the time you make you first claim ie prelim letter to bank.

Mine included about three charges form a year earlier.

 

Jenny best of luck if you go to court. ha ha "legal binding document"!! Yeah Tony that works both ways, matey. "SHOW ME THE MONEY" I think is the expression?

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i'm watching this thread with interest, seems the outcome may have an impact on the decision of my case.. knowing my bank though they'll stick with their tried and tested formula; settle out of court on the 11th hour..

:cool: Barclays claim for £1,460

 

10/06/06 - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent.

21/06/06 - Statements received.

05/10/06 - Prelim letter sent.

19/10/06 - LBA sent.

02/11/06 - Offer received for £700.

12/11/06 - Rejection letter sent.

23/11/06 - MCOL submitted (£1,890.27 with 8% interest).

24/11/06 - Charges schedule sent to bank & court.

28/12/06 - Barclays file defence/AQ received from court.

14/01/07 - AQ & charges schedule sent to court.

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Hi, Received my cheque this morning.....talk about last minute. I've faxed the court the continuance letter. GOOD LUCK for those still attending, show them what your made of.

 

Jenny

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Hi, Received my cheque this morning.....talk about last minute. I've faxed the court the continuance letter. GOOD LUCK for those still attending, show them what your made of.

 

Jenny

our postman hasn't been!

 

oh well, I'm setting off to court now!

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Is anyone actually going to this hearing or has everyone settled? Probably too late for an answer now as they will be on the way. I wish I lived nearer to Leeds at this moment so I could go and listen in the public gallery.

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there were 5 of us from a list of 99 people, all others were settled

 

NatWest didn't show, neither did Abbey National so the guy who's claiming from Abbey has to go back next week (nice to meet you if you're on this forum by the way), someone against Lloyds who settled during the hearing, 2 others were claiming 27.5% interest against Barclays, didn't see how that ended but think they'll just get their charges plus 8% (they had some good offers made to them too which they declined)

 

in my case, the Barclays lawyer spoke to me and said he'd help me, he contacted Cobbets (who were acting on behalf of NatWest), they said they didn't know about the hearing but will bring me a cheque, someone from their Leeds office turned up at 1PM with my cheque (the other 2 Vs Barclays were still in court so don't know how that ended)

 

I thought the 2 lawyers there were very friendly, made brilliant offers to the people there, the Judge was a good bloke too, didn't know what to expect, but glad I went!

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...so I could go and listen in the public gallery.
you must be joking!

 

even though it's classed as the High Court, it was a small room (with enough seats for about 30 people - so they wouldn't have had a chance if all 99 turned up and all lawyers!), although you could've sat in on it as one person did just to see how it went, there was literally us 5, 2 lawyers, 1 watching, 3 women from the courts & the judge

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Well done mmace, I'm glad its settled, we'll have to keep our fingers crossed for the Barclays lot.

 

Jenny

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Hiya

 

Glad you got a good outcome today. I only found on Tuesday about the hearing and therefore wasn't able to take time off work. My case is with Barclays. I spoke to the Court and they were very good about it and said I should submit a letter to say why I couldn't attend and that I would probably hear in about 10 days or so as to the outcome, etc.

 

Can't believe Barclays actually sent a lawyer up - I should have rung in sick or something, but want to a clean sheet at my job

 

Did you get the name of the Barclays lawyer? I've had no formal offer of settlement from Barclays, so just wondering what I should do next - can't really send another letter demanding payment, when I don't know what happened in Court today.

 

Thanks so much for the update though - really appreciated.

 

Stevie

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Hiya

 

Glad you got a good outcome today. I only found on Tuesday about the hearing and therefore wasn't able to take time off work. My case is with Barclays. I spoke to the Court and they were very good about it and said I should submit a letter to say why I couldn't attend and that I would probably hear in about 10 days or so as to the outcome, etc.

 

Can't believe Barclays actually sent a lawyer up - I should have rung in sick or something, but want to a clean sheet at my job

 

Did you get the name of the Barclays lawyer? I've had no formal offer of settlement from Barclays, so just wondering what I should do next - can't really send another letter demanding payment, when I don't know what happened in Court today.

 

Thanks so much for the update though - really appreciated.

 

Stevie

x;)

are you the female steve?

if so, your name was brought up a few times as well as your letter being read out by the Judge about you not being able to get time off work at such short notice (which everyone was fine about by the way!)

 

your case will be next Wednesday at 10AM, BUT, the lawyer won't be there as he said he will have settled it with you before then, expect a cheque or phone call in the next day or so!

 

if it does go to court, the lawyer just said he would phone or fax the settlement rather than turning up

 

apparently, all the banks usually send lawyers, even if it's to settle with people before they go in, the Barclays lawyer said he was really surprised no one was there to represent NatWest as they haven't missed one yet!

 

the Barclays lawyer is from London and has been travelling the country for these cases (so he said), and didn't even have anything about your details as nothing was said to him before he left from London yesterday

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the lawyer was called Steven (or Stephen) Parsxxxx

could be parson, parsley, parstie

 

I have a message from him on my mobile making sure I have my cheque OK (no number though!) but can't make out his name!

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So apart from lots of last minute settlements, nothing much else happened I take it. No banks ordered into court to explain themselves.

 

It was to be expected really.

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Glad to hear that about 95% seem to have got THeir money back BUT what a FECKING farce and charade the whole thing has been?

Why oh why do the banks procrastinate and delay for SOOOO long?

They know we ain't gonna give up and they are going to pay up.

 

It just costs them more and more the longer they delay.

I am sure if this matter of unnecesary costs to shareholders were raised at shareholders meetings, something would be said and done?

mamace, congrats. Did the judge have anything to say about the conduct of the banks? Or are we naive and this is actually the norm in legal battles?

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the lawyer was called Steven (or Stephen) Parsxxxx

could be parson, parsley, parstie

 

I have a message from him on my mobile making sure I have my cheque OK (no number though!) but can't make out his name!

 

Probably People & Offices Colin Passmore | Simmons & Simmons - Law firm website

 

... and he didn't seem too happy by all accounts

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