Premier Vanishing Windscreen PCN - 20mins overstay - Charleston Pay and Display , Charleston, Cornwall. PL25 3NJ

[james2222]

1 Date of the infringement 8 December 2021
 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 10 December 202

 

3 Date received 16 December 2021
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes, photo of parking ticket through windscreen and of the full car in a parking bay 
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No
 

7.Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up  Not applicable ... have not appealed
 

7 Who is the parking company? Premier Parking

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Charleston Pay and Display , Charleston, Cornwall.  PL25 3NJ
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. Appeals to Premier Parking ... then Parking on Private lands Appeal (POPLA) if first appeal unsuccessful
 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure, They have BPA membership shown on their letter

 

 

Hello

Received a Parking Charge Notice from Premier Parking in post yesterday (16th December)!

 

Was in a Pay and Display car Park in Charleston, Cornwall ... paid for one hour as only expected to need to park for maximum of 45 mins but ended up getting delayed

and returned to my car back 20 mins later than ticket time. 

No penalty ticket or notification was left on my car at the time.

 

About 10 cars in car park .... with spaces for hundreds!

Charge of £100 now being demanded ... but ONLY!!!  £60 if paid in 29days.

 

I suppose I'll have to pay up but if anyone can suggest an alternative route to avoid me paying these robbers the absurd charge of £60 for 20mins of excess parking, then I'd love to hear.

 

 

parkng.pdf

[dx100uk]

as usual premier have stuff up royally

if you go back to our sticky and read, for NON ANPR capture they should not be sending that letter till after day 29, and the operator should have issued a windscreen ticket.

 

as it stands this is a classic vanishing windscreen pcn trick and can safely be totally ignored until/unless you ever get a letter of claim.

 

most probably the pictures were taken by someone that gets a backhander for dobbing in drivers and is not an employee of premier so can't issue tickets.

 

we will need page 2 of the PCN as the guide says please to ensure if/if not it is POFA2012 compliant.

 

dx

 

[james2222]

Hello

Thank you DX100UK for your prompt response to my initial posting.  It was much appreciated.

As requested I have attached a pdf of the reverse of the Parking Charge Notice.

 

Having read a number of other posts on similar parking issues, am I correct in assuming the following.

1. I ignore any further threatening letters or letters trying to intimidate me with, ''the costs are increasing".

 

2. I do nothing unless a letter before action arrives.

 

3. If a LBA arrives I'll post up here and seek further advice.

 

It really is reassuring that DX and his colleagues are prepared to offer their valued advice.  My commitment is that if this Premier Park  rip-off  fizzles out as hoped ... my Parking Charge will transform in to a contribution to this site.

 

 

 

IMG_6331pdf.pdf

[dx100uk]

You correct on1/2/3...

 

Dx

[lookinforinfo]

The NTK is not compliant with PoFA.

First there is no time period mentioned. Just the time the picture was taken is insufficient. The legislation requires that there should be a start time and an end time for the breach.

Second  in Schedule 4 s9 2[f] the time should state 28 days but this one states 29 days but then states at the end that if payment isn't made within  28 days debt recovery may begin. So one day too much at 29 then one day short at 28.

[james2222]

Hello

Have received lots of 'Pay Now' letters from Premier parking (I overstayed 30 mins in empty car park) since December last year.

I received this last one just a few weeks ago and reading this again, I wonder if the bit that says, "if you do not make contact within 7 days we will assume you have chosen to ignore this letter and legal recovery actions will begin", constitutes a 'Letter before action'.  Copy of letter attached.

Any advice welcomed.

parking letter..pdf

[dx100uk]

No it doesn't

 

Please complete our have your received a parking ticket sticky on this forums home page where you created your thread too.

 

Dx

[james2222]

Thank you Dx100uk

Think I have cocked up by starting a new thread .... my latest message was a follow-on from my initial thread, started 17th December last year ... where I completed the 'Have you received a Parking ticket' form.

My apologies.  

So I assume from your reply, I just continue to 'sit tight'.

I still find it amazing that a 50p 'overstay' (difference in purchasing a 1hr vs 2 hr ticket) can be 'escalated' by them to a charge of £170 .... with the threat of it going to £235!!!

If the law allows that, then I'm afraid my confidence in the law is definitely on the downwards track.   

Regards

James

 

[FTMDave]

Threads merged.

 

Don't worry.  An uninterested third party with no power to do anything has written to your pretending that the debt has increased to five million pounds.  Laugh at them & ignore.

[lookinforinfo]

Not only Premier but all the other parking companies that are wildly overcharging on their PCNs are about to get  a shock when they get to Court. The maximum they can now charge for is £100 no matter how they try to lie and scheme to increase their charges.

Small comfort perhaps for you when all that was initially at stake was 50p. Perhaps it is better to overpay on your expected time in car parks even if it is for a pound or slightly more.Far better that than to go through threats of costs into the hundreds not to mention the stresses involved.