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    • Thank you for your reply, DX! I was not under the impression that paying it off would remove it from my file. My file is already trashed so it would make very little difference to any credit score. I am not certain if I can claim compensation for a damaged credit score though. Or for them reporting incorrect information for over 10 years? The original debt has been reported since 2013 as an EE debt even though they had sold it in 2014. It appears to be a breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 Section 13 and this all should have come to a head when I paid the £69 in September 2022, or so I thought. The £69 was in addition to the original outstanding balance and not sent to a DCA. Even if I had paid the full balance demanded by the DCA back in 2014 then the £69 would still have been outstanding with EE. If it turns out I have no claim then so be it. Sometimes there's not always a claim if there's blame. The CRA's will not give any reason for not removing it. They simply say it is not their information and refer me to EE. More to the point EE had my updated details since 2022 yet failed to contact me. I have been present on the electoral roll since 2012 so was traceable and I think EE have been negligent in reporting an account as in payment arrangement when in fact it had been sold to a DCA. In my mind what should have happened was the account should have been defaulted before it was closed and sold to the DCA who would then have made a new entry on my credit file with the correct details. However, a further £69 of charges were applied AFTER it was sent to the DCA and it was left open on EE systems. The account was then being reported twice. Once with EE as open with a payment arrangement for the £69 balance which has continued since 2013 and once with the DCA who reported it as defaulted in 2014 and it subsequently dropped off and was written off by the DCA, LOWELL in 2021. I am quite happy for EE to place a closed account on my credit file, marked as satisfied. However, it is clear to me that them reporting an open account with payment arrangement when the balance is £0 and the original debt has been written off is incorrect? Am I wrong?
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Wellington court financial services ltd not paying out on FOS final decision RE: +£58k Pension- help enforcing & using form N322A - court claim issued


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I won my claim through FOS which went to Ombudsman for final decision. 

 

They were given 28 days to pay which runs out this Friday 19th November 2021.  I am getting ready to file N322A form to courts so I can enforce the order.

 

  It has already been 2 years to get this far and I'm sick of being messed about so am going for it.  I will drop dead with shock if they actually pay on Friday.

 

  The question I have is how do I work out how much they owe me?  This is for a FA Company transferring a pension into a sipp.

 

  I put in a claim originally for £130,000 when I started the claim with fOS, using what the pension would of been worth if left where it was, interest and compensation.

 

  I have no idea how to work out what the amount is that the FOS have awarded using their formula.

 

  Help please.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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it can only be today value surely? 

 

i would assume you are talking about the statutory flat rate 8% interest ?

 

use the statint sheet it does it for you.

it was designed for PPI but same interest from fos

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you.

 

I am trying to work out what the Amount awarded is.

 

invested was £52,800.  Pension was valued at £92,000 by previous pension before moving into sipp. 

 

Fos award states...

The Orbis SIPP.........for half the
investment: FTSE UK Private Investors Income
Total Return Index; for the other half: average rate from fixed rate bonds.


From date of investment to date of my final decision


8% simple per year on any loss from the end date to the date of settlement

 

I work it out as follows...

£77,908.84 owed (used https://www.pensionclaims.co/pension-redress-calculators)
£44 Court fee
£1,478.95 sipp fees for 5 years (295.79 pa)
£300 compensation
£28075.13 interest from 2015 to today (on original £52,800)
Total = £107,806.92
£8,624.55 8% fee for late payment
Owes total £116,431.47

 

Would this be correct?  I don't want to put the wrong amount owed on Court form and give them am excuse to challenge the CCJ or get myself into trouble.

 

Thank you for all the help

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Help Enforcing FOS final decision using form N322A - FA Company transferring a pension into a sipp.

i know we have a few pension experts here i hope they will pop in.

 

could you not give the fos a quick ring ?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi.

 

I'm not clear what the screenshots and figures you've posted up represent - is that all the information you've been sent?

 

Someone I know deals with certain types of pension scheme and I managed to have a quick word. Normally the basis of the calculations should be included with the offer of compensation - is there more paperwork than you've shown us?

 

A couple of questions to start.

 

1. Were you taken out of a defined benefit [DB] scheme that guaranteed you a pension of a certain amount at pension age?

 

2. You've quoted various figures in post #5. How much was tranferred into the SIPP when it was set up?

 

3. Were you offered the possibility of being transferred back into the DB scheme if that's what you were in?

 

4. For what reason is it considered that you were missold the SIPP?

 

HB

 

 

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The award states...

That for half the
investment: FTSE UK Private Investors Income Total Return Index;

for the other half: average rate from fixed rate bonds.

 

From date of investment to date of my final decision

 

Amount originally invested was £52,800

 

8% simple per year on any loss from the end date to the date of settlement

 

Had no communication from company that I have won against.

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i have sorted your pdf its back up

i'll read later too see if i can help with correct calc 

though i suspect it will be the statint sheet you need as already pointed too

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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An extremely quick read shows redress due regarding annual sipp fees too?

 

i can see this is complex and i think needs the fa to do something that the fos required them to do before a final figure can be realised??

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Are these the people, Simmonds? They seem to operate in Ireland and Devon, although I saw an address in Melton Mowbray as well.

 

WWW.MONEYMARKETING.CO.UK

The FCA has stopped a firm involved in transfers out of a local government pension scheme from engaging in such activity. 

 

HB

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just type no need to keep hitting quote

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Wellington court financial services ltd not coughing up on FOS final decision RE: +£58k Pension- help enforcing & using form N322A

This is from the Law Gazette about enforcing FOS awards. It's from 2014 but hopefully not much has changed apart from the amounts.

 

The article mentions the FCA who from what I've read regulate Wellington in the UK.

 

WWW.LAWGAZETTE.CO.UK

Why are attempts to enforce Financial Ombudsman Service decisions in the legal system so onerous?

 

HB

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I have finally had an email from Wellington court financial services ltd. 

 

Here it is, I'm am lost for words on their stupidity....

 

"Please kindly ask yourself the following basic principles of any enquiry/redress which should be based on the facts; “ what, why, when, how, where and who”, The Six Honest Men.


We repeat you have not been a client of Wellington Court Financial Services Ltd.

 

You have not received advice from Wellington Court Financial Services Ltd. There is no evidence that you have been a client of Wellington Court Financial Services Ltd for example; basic due diligence documentation, copy of ID or passport, copy of your utility bill, Know-Your-Client, Terms of Business, Suitability Reports, etc. Have you provided and obtained those documents from Mr John Picket of JCP Direct or any other third party?


Any redress should be forwarded to:
• Guinness Mahon Trust Corporation/Orbis SIPP, Hartley Pensions Ltd who acquired the pension assets of Guinness Mahon Trust Corporation and the trustee Hartley Pensions Trustees Ltd,
• and/or the person who advised you and/or you were speaking and instructing directly,
• and/or your unnamed accountant,
• and/or Mr John Picket of JCP Direct as confirmed by you who you were dealing with.


Please cease and desist from making an unwarranted claim and threats. Wellington Court Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to protect its interests and good name with the utmost vigour of the law.


Yours sincerely,
Wellington Court Financial Services Ltd"

 

 

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Made that up down the pub no doubt with their mates

 

Quite honestly i would be sending that to the fos.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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