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I’ve done some digging but unfortunately pretty well drawn a blank on the bye law issue.

I believe they are squirming, as indicated by another site where they have over-billed people     
 

H

 

Cheer lookinforinfo. Will do when I get home. 

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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The only notification I got was from bw legal telling me that since I had not responded with payment, the bill had gone up to £160.

copy is on earlier replies.

 

H

 

I’ve never gotten a PCN, just that letter from bwlegal.

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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55 minutes ago, lookinforinfo said:

When you get the sar from Britannia, could you please post up the PCN .

 

read the post properly...

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

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Ok. 

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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7 hours ago, hamadryad said:

I’ve done some digging but unfortunately pretty well drawn a blank on the bye law issue.

OK.  I'll try to look into it when time permits.

We could do with some help from you.

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I've just done some research, and there are definitely bye-laws in the area.

 

I suggest you write to the Poole Harbour Commissioners  [email protected]  and ask if the quayside is covered by the bye-laws.

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I’ve emailed them just asked them if the car park is covered, and by which bye laws

 

Had a reply back from the Harbour Commission & they say the car park has nothing to do with them. Ah well.

 

I proved who I am & where I live to Britannia, and told them the time limit is ticking.

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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p'haps the wrong question?

 

better to ask if they own land, if they do then byelaws apply by default if byelaws exist for the whole commission land.?

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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dx is right.

 

Obviously the commissioners don't run the car park.

 

What we need to know is if the bye-laws cover The Quay (I've looked on Google Maps and "Quay" is the road and "Quayside" is the name of the car park).

 

As they've been so cooperative and got back to you so quickly, contact them again and ask them.

We could do with some help from you.

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I've been onto the council, and they have confirmed that they do not own or administer the land.

They suggested that I do an investigation on the Land Registry, and sent me the link for it too!

 

Also today I got the following from Britannia!

 

Ooer!

 

 

Brits - sar received.pdf

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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in otherwords they now know they are onto a hiding.

 

i p'haps wouldn't have put the list of stuff you wanted, we didnt say that

just send an sar as was.

you've tipped them off now.

they've time to make fake paperwork now,

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I sent the sar as was.  I copied it. 

I then sent proof of who I was & where I lived.

 

Surely if they fabricate stuff it can either be demonstrated as such.

 

Google earth shows that there are signs on the gate that video surveillance is in operation, and that the t’s & c’s are v small and not obvious.

 

H

 

 

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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thats weird so they are guessing.... interesting.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just have to wait & see now.

 

H

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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They have sent back some stuff which shows that the original pcn was sent to somewhere I have not lived for over 6 years!

Clearly they went off their records, and I don’t believe it is my responsibility to update their records.

I’ll upload what I got back from them later, but essentially they can swivel for the extra £60 they want to charge.

I’ll take advice about the rest of the charge.

I’m reminded of something about the charges being an invoice. Not sure about that though.

 

H

Edited by hamadryad

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Let me see if I've got this right.

 

You moved in 2015 (ish), and updated your V5C, etc.

 

This "offence" was in August 2021, and they sent their documentation to your 2015 address?

 

If so, this is excellent news for you, and a massive own goal for them.  They've broken just about every rule in their Code of Practise book.  You've been given no right to appeal.  They have added £60 Unicorn Food Tax.  They are supposed to ask the DVLA for your current address.

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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Ah. I did not update the ‘log book’ but do have my new address on my licence.

 

Actually, I was stopped by the police (for a rear tail light only), in April 2017 and they commented about why my licence address was Poole, when the car was register in Glos. 

The answer was, I was in the process of moving down to Poole.

I moved out of the address they used because my Mum, who I was looking after, went into residential care.

 

Movements:

2012 - May 2016…..Stroud, Glos

May 2016 to April 2017……Swindon, Wilts

April 2017 to date…… Poole, Dorset.

My dvr licence has my current address.

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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It's the vehicle details they get from the DVLA.

 

What address was on your log book in August?

We could do with some help from you.

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Ah. The address in Glos. 

 

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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It pains me to say it then, but the fleecers have done nothing wrong re the address.  In fact you're lucky they didn't send a Letter of Claim and then a county court claim form to the old address - you would have lost a court claim by default.

 

In fact they could still do this in a few months' time, it is BW Legal who have written to the new address, not Britannia.  You need to send a two-line letter off to Britannia

 

"Dear XXXXX

 

Re: PCN no. XXXXX

 

please note that I no longer live at XXXXX Gloucestershire" but now live at XXXXX Dorset".

 

Usual 2nd class post, usual CoP.

 

Any news about The Quay and if it is covered by bye-laws?

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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I didn’t change my address, merely as an oversight!

Clearly I’d forgotten about a mere detail. Many people don’t realise that they need to change their address for that I guess. 

 

I’ll send them the letter you suggest, but I’m guessing that I’ll have a bullet to bite!

 

There’s no result about ownership/bye laws either!  I’ve researched on the land registry & the council, to no real effect.

 

With my background maybe I’ll take out their cameras. ANPR be buggered!     Just saying………..

 

I am, though, very grateful for your efforts.

 

H

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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No problem, that's what we're here for 👍

 

They haven't sent you a Letter of Claim, so no reason to even consider paying them.

 

When you have time, please upload the documentation they sent after your SAR.

We could do with some help from you.

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Will do.

 

Cheers mate & stay safe.

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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  • 1 month later...

Got a whole load of stuff back  as a result of the SAR, including pictures of my car c/w time & date.

 

I've since had 2 letters from bw reminding me that I still have not paid.

Latest one attached.

 

 

 

BW you didnt reply to our letter.pdf

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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