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Hi,

 

It's due to the recipients on 04 Jul.

It's going 1st class today!

 

Got their questionnaire through today.

they have ticked yes to mediation.

mine went 1st class yesterday to both the court and them and I ticked no to mediation

watch this space…..as they say!

 

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Hi all!

 

I've heard back (at last) from the BW fools.

 

Attached is what they have sent.

 

I've also heard back from the court saying that the case has been allocated to the Small Claims Court.

 

The car is scrapped now, so I didn't think it would matter, but fair enough.

 

Herewith the merged and redacted docs.

 

Cheers,

 

Robert

 

n271+ bw letters.pdf

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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is that everything?

you appear to have uploaded the same 3 pages in 2 pdf's.

 

await the N157 from the court

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you!

 

That's the latest relevant info.

 

What is the N157?

 

H

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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Notice of allocation from your local court

 

pcn claimform

 

use our enhanced google searchbox

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you.

 

Hopefully they will back down. Seems a little unlikely though, given what their letter said!

 

still, hope springs eternal as they say!

 

h

 

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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Can I take it that the details of their response mean they stand a good chance of winning?

 

I do wonder!

 

H

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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no quite the other way

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well, after ignoring the several letters asking me to pay up, I’ve now been informed by the court that I have a Microsoft Teams meeting where a judge? will hear my/their case.

 

Seems we are going the distance with this.

shame it’s by ‘teams’ cos had they been required to attend they might have shyed off, being in Leeds. Ah well.

 

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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Got it by email. Just home now.

Ill load it up asap.

 

H

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

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Hi,

 

Here is the court order.

Given that they are a local company, (albeit with a poor rep), do you think they will pursue this?

 

Your thoughts

 

notice of allocation to small claims track.pdf

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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15 minutes ago, hamadryad said:

Given that they are a local company, (albeit with a poor rep), do you think they will pursue this?

Impossible to say.

 

In a minority of cases some of the PPCs with some of the cases start court action to try to intimidate the motorist into paying - then discontinue at the last moment.

 

But in the majority of cases court means court (especially, as you say, given the fleecers won't have to travel for this one).

 

You obviously have to prepare for the latter, for an actual court hearing.

 

Point 7 is the important point for now,.  You need to get to work on a Witness Statement,.  There are hundreds on other PPC threads.  The forum will help you.

 

Also look at point 12.  Further down the line you'll be able to phone the court and see if the fleecers have paid the hearing fee.

We could do with some help from you.

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Hi,

 

Got an offer of 25% off if I accepted by 13 Nov, (court date is 13/12/22).

Gave it a good ignoring.

 

Today I got a whole load of stuff from them, detailing all the guff that they are relying on in bringing the case.

 

Masses of it, from a Kimberley Kaddra at BW legal.

 

It quotes all sorts of references.

 

I can scan it in, but there is rather a lot of it!

 

I have read many of he reviews of this company, and they are nearly all bad, and I know of someone (who is prepared to write a statement) who tried to pay at another location and the machine would nottake his registration number and he got and paid a £100 bill,

 

H

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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get it up

 

we will know it well i bet

 

so witness statement time by:

 

By 4.00 pm on 15 November 2022 the defendant must send to the court and to the claimant copies of all the
documents he intends to rely upon at the final hearing. These must be in a bundle with each page clearly numbered.
The defendant MUST bring the originals of those documents to the final hearing.

 

so 6 weeks later... where is your witness statement?

 

i would suggest in the next 2 days you need to get one done...why have you not?? you were notified of this requirement 6 weeks ago.

 

at the latest i would file one by email to the court by 4pm weds

 

dx

 

 

 

22 hours ago, hamadryad said:

Hi,

 

Got an offer of 25% off if I accepted by 13 Nov, (court date is 13/12/22).

Gave it a good ignoring.

 

Today I got a whole load of stuff from them, detailing all the guff that they are relying on in bringing the case.

 

Masses of it, from a Kimberley Kaddra at BW legal.

 

It quotes all sorts of references.

 

I can scan it in, but there is rather a lot of it!

 

I have read many of he reviews of this company, and they are nearly all bad, and I know of someone (who is prepared to write a statement) who tried to pay at another location and the machine would nottake his registration number and he got and paid a £100 bill,

 

H

i will guess this is their witness statement?

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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could you post it up, the clock is ticking as DX says.

We could do with some help from you.

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Hi all,

 

Covid got in the way, and it's slipped my mind!

So much catching up to do!!!!

 

I've printed out the 50 odd pages they are relying on.

Should I scan it all into pdf & send it?

 

IOs there a form of witness statement I should use?

 

H

 

hi,

 

I hope all the reviews here can persuade the judge that they are just crooks who will rip anyone off!

 

I also hope to be able to use this info too!

 

H

 

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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Please scan up their WS ASAP so we can see what they are arguing.

 

Then we can point you to sections of other WSs which you can use in reply.

 

You've missed the court deadline, but that's OK, Litigants in Person are given some leeway.

 

But you should aim to get it sorted tonight and as dx says file by 4pm tomorrow.

 

If you don't do a WS you will lose the case.

 

I have work till 9pm UK time but after will try to help, but we need to see the fleecers' WS.

We could do with some help from you.

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we need their full WS + their exhibits...

stop wasting time bugging around the net trying to find stuff which is unimportant to your ws.

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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THat's their witness statement.

THe rest is 50 pages of double sided text, photos etc

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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I see they have added the £60 Unicorn Feed tax which is not applicable if they are suing a Keeper,  you have also left personal information that should have been redacted, however I won't hide the uploads yet to give other member's a chance  to check that WS  for any thing to challenge on as the clock has nearly run down for yo to submit your own WS.

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OOps!

 

I see from another thread, that a district Judge in Bradford ruled that the additional £60 for 'contractual losses' amounted to an 'abuse of process' and therefore made the claim invalid.  It was struck off!

 

would that apply here?

 

H

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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1 hour ago, brassnecked said:

I won't hide the uploads yet to give other member's a chance  to check that WS  for any thing to challenge on as the clock has nearly run down for yo to submit your own WS.

Still at work BN, will look in in a couple of hours' time.

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I too will be in work tomorrow, until well past 1600 too!

 

Bugger!

 

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

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