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Hi all,

 

Today I got a letter from BW legal saying that their client 'Britannia Parking Group Ltd has instructed them to act because 'I failed to make a valid payment'

 

Apparently I parked at Poole - Quayside Poole on 17 Aug 2021

 

I was not issued a parking notice by anyone, and I have never been contacted by anyone previously.

 

Do I have to pay the supposed £160, even with their payment plan of £15/month, or just tell them to go do one!

 

H

 

BW Letter.pdf

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes, please complete the forum sticky.

 

It's very strange that you haven't received any correspondence previously.  You haven't moved since August, have you?  Your V5C is up to date, right?

We could do with some help from you.

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I’ve been there for over 5 years, and yes all my car docs are up to date. 

 

1 Date of the infringement 17 Aug 2021
 
 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 01 Nov 2021 
 

3 Date received 04 Nov 2021
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] NO
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? NO
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] NO
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up NO

 

7 Who is the parking company? Britannia Parking Group Ltd t/a Britannia Parking

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Poole – Quayside Poole
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. NO

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Britannia/BW PCN - Poole – Quayside Poole

Although Britannia are morons, they do actually usually manage to send out their PCNs.

 

Personally I would SAR them so you can get to the bottom of what went on in August.

 

As for BW Legal's silly letter, it's not a Letter Before Claim, so you don't need to go anything, just ignore it.

We could do with some help from you.

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Thank you. I’ll send an Sar to bw. 
 

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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No, not to BW.  They are just bunged a few quid to send a couple of threatening letters.

 

Your dispute is with Britannia, they have the info you need.  Send them the SAR and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office.

We could do with some help from you.

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Ok. Will do in the am. 

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Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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It also crosses my mind that Poole Quayside may be administered by bye-laws that will trump any old rubbish a private company dream up.  Look into this as well.  Have a look in this forum and on the wider web.  Find out if where you were parked is in the Poole Port bye-laws area.

We could do with some help from you.

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I’ve checked them out. They are known to scam people. It’s a ‘private’ car park!

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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We haven't understood each other.  What I meant is this.

 

Say you see someone you recognise vandalising road signs in the street where you live.  You send them a letter saying you're fining them.  They would laugh at you.  You're not the police, the council or the courts, you have no power to issue fines.  The correct procedure would be to involve the police, for the person to be prosecuted in the Magistrates' Court and for a fine to be paid to the state.

 

Similarly, airports, train stations and ports are invariably subject to bye-laws.  Traffic offences should be prosecuted in the Magistrates' Court.  A private company have no power to issue their own charges where there are bye-laws in place.

 

At the moment nothing is happening to you save having to open letters with bilge written inside but it's possible that later on Britannia might go in the direction of court.  The more info you can build up to undermine them the better.  So one important step is to do some digging and find out if the car park you were in is inside the bye-laws area. 

 

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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The OP has never received a PCN, I think the November date refers to getting a "threatening" letter from BW Legal.

We could do with some help from you.

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The letter demands payment by 16 Dec.

The date of the so-called infringement is 17 Aug 2021

The date of the letter, (and first contact), is 01 Nov 2021

 

There is a lot of time in the interim!

Surely there is a limit to when they can pursue things?

 

I'll send an SAR anyway though.

 

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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No they have 6 yrs if the ntk is fully compliant

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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SAR will go on Monday now.

 

Cheers all,

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Well!

 

Attached is what Britannia have sent back.

Since I pay my road tax by direct debit, and my licence has my current address on it, I'm assuming that this is just delaying tactics & I can respond appropriately, and tell them no, the 28 days still stand.

 

 

sar reply want ID proof.pdf

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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So since the 'offence' you have moved?

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No. Definitely not.

I've been here  for 5 1/2 years and its the address held by dvla, I just checked.

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Send them a copy of your ctax bill

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ctax is in my partner's name.

I do have a copy of my electoral roll registration though.

 

H

There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Just prove who you and where you are

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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