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    • If you are flying away tomorrow (or rather this) morning I'd just forget about complaining to the police now.  As BF said earlier it's probably just a waste of your time anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.  Forget it for now.  Have a safe flight and concentrate on your other thread against Aviva.
    • I'm afraid you won't get a complaint drafted before tomorrow morning - and I think most others here think it would be a waste of time anyway and that the police decision won't change.  I would ask for a review and make a complaint on principle, but I suspect you are better off concentrating your effort on your other thread and direct complaint against Aviva.   Unless you are out of the country for an extended period I'd wait until your return before considering futrther whwther to complain about the police.   [ By the way, just so that you don't mislead yourself as it's a mistake many people make, ALL agreements are "verbal" in that they are composed of words.  Some agreements are in writing and others are oral, spoken or vocal.  The law recognises oral or spoken agreements just as much as ones that are written down.  The only practical difference is that oral agreements can be difficult to prove in a dispute]
    • Just to add there is a scheme called the Victim's Right to Review.  It basically applies to decisions made by the CPS not to go ahead with a prosecution.  It doesn't apply to decisions made by local police forces, but it does say:   19.  Decisions that are not eligible for VRR include: ... iii where the police or other investigator exercises their independent discretion not to investigate or not to investigate a case further (whether in consultation with the CPS or not) and the CPS have not been requested / have been unable to make a final decision to charge. Requests for review of such decisions should instead be addressed to the relevant police force/other investigator; [My bold] Victims' Right to Review Scheme | The Crown Prosecution Service WWW.CPS.GOV.UK   I'm not familiar with the scheme so can't advise - but other posters here may know about it or have experience of it.  You need to read the above link but note that it talks about things that seem to fit your situation.   eg a victim is defined as ‘a person who has made an allegation that they have suffered harm, including physical, mental or emotional harm or economic loss which was directly caused by criminal conduct’.   If you have not already requested that the police review their decision not to pass the case onto the CPS, then I would do so.  If you are not happy with the outcome of that, complain.   I can't advise you definitely to go ahead and ask for a review or complain, but if I were in your situation that is what I would do.  But I tend to agree with BankFodder that you'll get nowhere and, if you are sick and tired of all this and just want it to go away, then just drop the police.  However, if you don't try...   [Apologies for the italic typeface/font - it's the above link causing it.  The italics should have stopped at the end of the third para above ending ' ... criminal conduct'.  I can't change it.  Very annoying]
    • @Manxman in exile I eloped to get with my husband si my husband and siblings never sat together in the same room .   Hes claiming a verbal agreement was made but a verbal agreement doesn't hold any water in the eyes of the law..no agreement was made I was in Leeds with my toddler.    He has made use of the policy , had the luxury of the insurance and reversed the money back and now Aviva are coming after me.   You've summed it up well is there anyone in the group that can help me draft the complaint to the police as I'm flying out first thing tomorrow and my head is all over the place.   My husband me Mr z , my late father and eldest brother were at this meeting supposedly when the verbal agreement was made but yet the officer took a statement off the eldest brother and didn't take it off the husband and based the final decision on the eldest brothers statement and Mr Z and all other evidence which is in written form has been completely dismissed    I'm fighting it all alone coming from an Asian background I am getting taunts and salt is bring rubbed on my wounds its not been a pleasant experience yo say the least trying to prove my innocence and having to listen to the b******* being spouted out by everyone whilst Mr Z is walking away not guilty 
    • I would complain to the police - even if I thought it would go nowhere.  I can't see that you have anything to lose.   I can't tell you the grounds of your complaint because I don't know the details of everything that has happened (you know better than I do)  and because I've found much of the story too difficult to follow.     But - based on everything you have told us - it seems to me that your brother has clearly committed fraud by obtaining the benefit of an insurance policy by falsely misrepresenting that he was opening the policy on your behalf and also by falsely misrepresenting himself - or a third party - as being your husband.  If your brother could not have taken out that policy without making those misrepresentations, then he has committed fraud.  It doesn't matter whether the victim was Aviva or you  and it doesn't matter if the victim realises they've been defrauded or not - the police should investigate it properly.  In this case you are the ultimate victim of the fraud because Aviva are saying that you owe them for the premiums on the policy your brother fraudulently took out, so whether Aviva consider they were the victims of fraud or not is irrelevant - they don't care because you end up as the fall guy.  Point out that this may have ended in a civil dispute over a debt between you and Aviva, but that that debt directly arises as a result of your brother's fraud in claiming to be acting on your behalf and by impersonating your brother.   One of the reasons the police seem to have dropped this case (and this needs to be one of your main grounds of complaint I think) is that they have accepted without question your brother's statement that your husband was somehow involved or in some way agreed to your brother taking this policy out in your name, and the police have simply and uncritically accepted your brother's word on that without ever speaking to your husband, who would vigourously deny it.    (I can't make any better suggestion than that because, to be honest, I don't follow what has happened.  If you never authorised your brother to open this insurance policy at all then I don't understand why the police would place any importance at all on your husband being present at a meeting with your brother.  What did your husband's presence have to do with the insurance policy?  Even if he had been at such meeting (which you say he denies) then how could he authorise anything on your behalf?  None of it makes any sense to me and I can't see why the police would think it did.)   Challenge the police to explain to you why they believe there is insufficient evidence to pass this on to the CPS   I would follow the published complaints procedure of the police force in question and I would also send a copy to your local Police and Crime Commissioner.   I think the main problem here is that (despite what the nice woman PC may have suggested to you) the police have never considered you to be the victim.  You need to demonstrate to them via your complaint that you are the victim here.   One other question: is your husband and are your family supporting you through this, or are you going it alone?
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Hi my wife purchased a chocolate fountain service for her birthday cost 160.00 pounds individual never turned up nor sent refund. Court cost would be 35.00 is it worth doing has any one sued some one from Facebook before is there any issues in proving the claim etc.  Have copies of all messages and proof payment sent. 

 

 

 

 

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So no chance of chargeback then.

 

Paying by BACS is not a good idea, we have a steady stream of people on here who have been conned and paying by BACS gives them much less chance of getting the money back.

 

From your description of having copies of all messages and proof of payment it seems you would easily win a court claim.

 

The issue is more if you could enforce judgement against this person.

 

Can you name them and give a link to any FB page?

 

We could do with some help from you.

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Of course it is.  As long as you're telling us the truth - which I don't doubt - there's nothing to worry about.

 

The individual might be known to us.

 

Telling us who it is will allow us to see if it's worth you suing or not. 

We could do with some help from you.

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4 hours ago, sean110869 said:

Hi my wife purchased a chocolate fountain service for her birthday cost 160.00 pounds individual never turned up nor sent refund. Court cost would be 35.00 is it worth doing has any one sued some one from Facebook before is there any issues in proving the claim etc.  Have copies of all messages and proof payment sent. 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sean - not sure who your wife is, if you can drop me a message with details on my mobile number or page so I can look into this for you 

 

Don’t appreciate people posting about my children mt home address etc etc and insuinting I am a scam artist and fake and stolen pictures this is not fair by any means. 
 

if you can contact me so I can sort this as stated not sure who your wife is and this post needs deleting 

any bookings I’ve cancelled have been informed and refunded I’ve been diagnosed with Multiple schlerosis and my health has been effected preventing me working 

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Not sure how to use this site bt any means had a message from someone above ^^^^ 

I don’t know who you are Sean I cannot resolve something If I don’t know who your wife is ? 
 

please drop me a message as soon as possible so I can chase your refund that would be appreciate 

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I have removed the post that offended you.

 

If you & Sean can sort things out between you, then great.

 

I'm sure Sean will contribute to the thread shortly.

We could do with some help from you.

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Hi Dave thank you, 

I did get your message on my page …… least think it’s was you. 

 

Hopefully Sean replies back and can get this sorted asap for him 

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Any update sean110869?

 

Have you managed to sort things out amicably with BEC88?

We could do with some help from you.

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So sean110869, what's going on here?

 

Assuming that everyone is who they say they are, you asked for help regarding getting a refund from a seller and the seller has been good enough to join the thread and wants to resolve the matter.  So?

We could do with some help from you.

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1 hour ago, FTMDave said:

So sean110869, what's going on here?

 

Assuming that everyone is who they say they are, you asked for help regarding getting a refund from a seller and the seller has been good enough to join the thread and wants to resolve the matter.  So?


inam still none of the wiser who Sean is nor had any contact from anyone in relation to this - as stated I cannot resolve something without knowing who is who, - 

there’s been a couple of customers awaiting refunds but none of the sum of £160 so that rules those ones out. 

 

Refunds are slightly delayed for some people due to finances, I’ve nothing to “hide” I’m honest enough - with covid and no work for over a year, and then my health impacting things it’s been a nightmare thankfully so many customers are very understanding. 

 

There’s the option if Sean wants to go the legal route that’s absolutely fine and within his rights it’ll be paid regardless

 however not much more I can do unless I hear from him. In relation to this matter, which is a shame as I would like to close this thread down on good terms rather than bad and be tarnished, 

 

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So Sean, you come here saying you've been conned by a FB seller.

 

The seller makes a huge effort to come onto the thread to sort things out with you and you go into radio silence.  Nowt much we can do if you disappear.

 

It seems that the seller has behaved with integrity and is certainly not "tarnished".  I fully admit that I jumped to conclusions and thought this was a scam, for which I apologise to BEC88 with no ifs or buts.

 

If anyone finds this page while Googling for BEC88's business they will see she bent over backwards to find & refund the customer.

 

Over and out Sean.

We could do with some help from you.

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