VCS spycar PCN Claimform - Zebra Xing no stopping - i had paid for parking, didn't pickup at xing as they alleged - Appeal Rejected - Bristol Airport **CLAIM DISCONTINUED**

[FashBasher]

Hello all.

 

I drove to Bristol Airport a few weeks back to pick up my sister and family who were returning from a weekend away. As I was driving to the car park I stopped at a zebra crossing to allow some pedestrians to cross. My sister and her family happened to be crossing so she opened the door to get in. I told her that I couldn't stop here and that I need to pick her up from the car park.

 

She closed the door and walked to the ANR controlled car park (presumably run by the same firm?) where I picked them up, we paid and left.

 

To be clear: I did not drop off nor pick up any passengers. My sister attempted to get in but I told her I couldn't pick them up here and we had to meet in the car park.

 

A while later I was disappointed, frustrated, and quite frankly pissed off when I received a charge notice in the post. I appealed thinking that would be the end of it but have just been sent this email:

 

Quote

Having considered the points you have raised and reviewed our records, we are unable to accept your appeal. Our
main reason(s) for this decision are as follows:
The signs at the crossing, clearly state "No Pick Up or Drop Off", giving clear notice that the land is private property
and that a Charge of £100 will be levied if vehicles do stop. The above detailed vehicle picked up/dropped off in a
zone where both are prohibited and the driver became liable to pay that Charge.
In your appeal you have confirmed to us that on the date in question, you stopped your vehicle on the access road,
which is an area where stopping is not permitted
We note your comment that you stopped and just spoke to your passengers; however as stated, the signs near to the
location you stopped clearly stated "No Stopping" and warned that if you did so, you were liable for the Charge
displayed.
A review of our CCTV evidence has confirmed that on the date in question, your vehicle stopped for an unreasonable
amount of time on the access road where restrictions apply.
There are over 80 high profile signs advising drivers not to stop and warning that if a driver does stop, a charge of
£100 is payable. The signs exceed recognised industry standards, with some as large as 2m by 1.1m (6ft 6in by 3ft
7in) which clearly state "No Stopping" alongside the nationally recognised Highway Code symbol for a Clearway (No
Stopping). Furthermore, the signage on the approach road is reflective and positioned to face oncoming vehicles and
the text size used is relative to the average approach speed of a vehicle in relation to the speed limit in force at that
location.
We have fully reviewed this case and we are satisfied that the Charge Notice was correctly issued. We are unable to
accept the mitigating circumstances raised in your representations, your appeal is therefore rejected and the Charge
will stand; photographic evidence which supports this can be viewed at www.myparkingcharge.co.uk.

 

I now have 2 options.

 

1 - Pay the "charge"

2 - Appeal to an organisation called the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) AKA United trade and industry Limited AKA The Independent Parking Committee (IPC) AKA The Independent Parking Community (IPC) AKA Training and Development Academy (TDA)

 

I don't fancy option 1 because I don't believe I've done anything wrong.

 

I don't have much faith in option 2 mostly because their cookie policy and privacy policy on their website don't fill me with confidence that they are a) are in independent ombudsman or b) totally compliant with GDPR.

 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Thanks.

 

Burdened in Bristol.

[dx100uk]

Where does anything say it's a fine please?

 

It's a speculative invoice from a vcs spycar.

 

If you look where you clicked the start a new thread button on this forums homepage, you'll see a questionnaire to fill out 

 

Do that please and scan to one mass pdf everything in/out....  bottom line is next time.. do not appeal!! As you've dobbed yourself in as the driver now and lost any protection under POFA2012.

 

Await/if you get a letter of claim

 

use our enhanced google search bo x for

bristol airport.

Or.

No stopping

 

You'll soon get the idea... 

 

Dx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[nightnajjers]

Hello

Snap I got the same with a different Airport..

 

Here is where I started.

There are plenty of posts in the same vein, so you need  to do a bit of study

 

It is not a fine

Edited September 23, 2021 by nightnajjers
spelling error

[honeybee13]

Welcome to CAG, FashBasher.

 

Please don't appeal, it's a waste of time and could make your life more complicated later. Once you've read a few topics here, you'll get the picture.

 

Best,

 

HB

[FashBasher]

I appreciate the responses.

 

Not so keen on having the topic title changed on my behalf.

 

I think my original was "Bristol Airport - No stopping fine"

 

[dx100uk]

thread tittle updated...it is not a fine,...

[dx100uk]

please complete this

 

and scan up all letters etc in/out to one mass PDF after redaction.

read our upload guide carefully please

[FTMDave]

We have a couple of other VCS/no stopping/airport/zebra crossing threads, and despite all their bluster VCS haven't had the bottle to do court.

 

Your options are not just your (1) or (2), the other option is to ignore their threats and simply not pay.

 

The IAS are crooks.  They were set up by the firm of solicitors most involved with the private parking scams.  The parking association, its appeals body and the solicitors they use - all run by the same people!  No conflict of interest there!  You can imagine how often they find in favour of the motorist - never.

 

As nightnajjers says, read similar threads and you'll soon get the idea.

 

Please let us have the info dx asked for, so we can see VCS's photos and also if they have bothered to follow the law when sending out their tripe, very often they do not.

 

 

[dx100uk]

and?

 

dx

[FashBasher]

VCS sent me lots more letters asking me to ["settle"] before court and eventually dropped it a month before the hearing.

 

Thanks for the confidence in encouraging me to hold my ground.

[dx100uk]

Dropped it?

 

Explain?

 

Dx

[FashBasher]

They dropped the small claims court claim against me.

[dx100uk]

so they eventually raised a court claim but then you got a notice of discontinuance from simple simon?

 

dx

 

[lookinforinfo]

I hope you didn't pay more than £100-that's the maximum they can charge........................

[Nicky Boy]

Hi FashBasher,

Dx is asking for more information because it's very unusual for this to happen.

If there is something you've done to "discourage" their claim, it might be very helpful to others in the same position as yourself.

 

Could you please let us have a little more detail about the circumstances of them "dropping" the case?

 

Did you perhaps answer any of the "lots" of letters asking you to "settle before court"?

[brassnecked]

Yes interesetd in why they dropped it VCS usually see thgings through to the end unless its really hopeless, or Simple wants to make a point.

[FashBasher]

I think they must have realised that they didn't have a chance of convincing a judge in small claims court given that they had no evidence of me "dropping off or picking up" (because I didn't), AND I had a receipt for the car park (because I paid for parking there)m - why they thought they had a chance in the first place astonishes me (unless they didn't read my appeal).

 

I had dozens of increasingly threatening letters asking me to give them money. In the end, they served me a small claims notice, I completed the forms and agreed to mediation (but that was cancelled).

 

We were supposed to be going to court in early December but I had a notice of discontinuance sent to me about a month ago.

 

Fully automated racketeering should be made illegal.

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

because sadly more than 85% of people that get a speculative invoice Parking Claimform wet themselves and cough up, worth the fees to raise the claim.

 

now how far did the claim get , did you exchanged WS's or they dropped it before then?

 

dx

[FTMDave]

Well done on your victory! 

[brassnecked]

Well done another one Simple loses, or bottles out of.