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For background on holiday in Wales and looking for somewhere to eat. Came to the car park, spotted a pub and went to check if serving food however didn't see the queue round the corner. Thought we would wait as queue moving and if staying try to buy a parking ticket but then said no room at the inn so back to the car and left. Times goes and we didn't notice it was 17 mins. Received PCN few days later.  Haven't corresponded with them nor appealed and know it's not a fine (have read other posts) so grateful for any advice. Didn't take photos so no evidence.

 

 

1 Date of the infringement

07/09/2021
 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

15/09/2021
 

3 Date received

18/09/2021
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

Yes
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Yes
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

No
 

 

7 Who is the parking company?

One Parking Solution

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Llangrannog (Beach) car park, West Wales
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

POPLA

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Well done on reading previous threads and putting and understanding everything properly!!

 

Sit on your hands see if they eventually issue a letter of claim

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Llangrannog car park is notorious for the over issue of PCNs.

 

If you put in its name followed by "Charges" or "Fines" on line you will see many entries and the local newspapers have taken on OPS. Their machine was not working for a while so the company gave a phone number to call and pay. Sadly for motorists the phone signal wasn't good enough.

 

Then a lawyer found out that apparently when the machine was fixed, the time wasn't right so that people including her were charged for overstaying, when they hadn't . She went to court and won but of course many people just paid up, In your case, even their own photos show you weren't parked. Waiting for a parking spot is not parking. 

 

As dx100uk says just sit on your hands and see if they can take the heat. You will get lots of letters putting up the price with no legal justification and  endless unregulated debt collectors saying the same thing. It is completely safe to ignore them all. Perhaps several months down the line or maybe several years down the line they might pluck up the courage to threaten you with Court-a letter headed something like Letter Before Action. then come back to us and we will advise you from there.

 

Only a small proportion of motorists get taken to court and they tend to be mostly the ones who write when they are innocent. This tells OPS that they will probably pay up at least £100 if threatened. So just ignore them and they may well pass you by.

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Yes have seen the posts about this car park on here and FB, as well as about the lawyer who took them on. Another robdog company catching people. We stopped at a few other places many with honesty boxes for parking and more than happy to pay as it goes toward the local community etc. 

Anyways we will wait for the inevitable letters and definitely come back if I get a LBA.

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:cheer2:- - yep safe to ignore

 

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Second reminder letter from ZZPS and now followed up by one from QDR solicitors requiring over £180 in the next fourteen days otherwise may result in recommending litigation. Not a LoC/LBA so filed for the moment.

Tierisch

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On 17/10/2021 at 22:11, dx100uk said:

:cheer2:- - yep safe to ignore

 

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Update on their antics

One more letter from QDR solicitors in January

A final demand from OPS (the amount has gone down from the other threatograms)

A new one from Trace debt recovery (and the amount has gone up)

Being filed and ignored

Tierisch

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The thing to note from the newspaper article is that all the signage is visible at the entrance. But unless you stop your car at the entrance and read the signs before entering you cannot be deemed to have accepted the terms just because you drove into the car park. I doubt that most drivers would stop at the entrance but go and park and then read the signs after  since it is impossible to read all the signs while driving through the entrance.

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Good point and even if someone did stop to read signs how impractical. I dislike these money grabbers who have a piece of land in a popular place and want to charge exorbitant prices. Welcome to Wales!

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Any update here?

I ask as a Cagger was in court yesterday with these parasites - and the Cagger gave them a good hiding.

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