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It used to be that an offence was never ‘spent’ for the purpose of an enhanced DBS : they were “enhanced” for a reason!.

 

This got altered in 2020.

for an eDBS Convictions,

i) for an adult,

ii) for an offence that didn’t attract a prison sentence (or suspended prison sentence),

iii) that aren’t on the list of offences that never get ‘filtered’,

now get filtered after 11 years.

 

https://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/what-will-be-filtered-by-dbs/

 

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That’s what ‘unlock’ say.

 

Whether a Byelaw conviction is “recordable” (to show on any DBS) : I still haven’t seen a definitive answer for.

 

If not “recordable” whether it would show under “other information at chief officer’s discretion” on an eDBS : again, I’m not sure.

 

Posters don’t seem to come back to tell us / confirm one way or another……

 

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“Did you ask them specifically about an enhanced DBS, or just the routine DBS?”

 

So : did you ask the solicitors about an eDBS (regarding when you got told “1 year”), or might their reply of “1 year” been for the standard DBS?

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It means “If they offer an out of court settlement, you’d be expected to pay it in one go, so you can’t offer instalments”

It’d be for all the costs : the avoided fares, their court costs and admin expenses.

 

It also means they might not be able to take a cheque (what if it ‘bounced’?).

 

So, the best way for them to know any settlement sum has been paid is to go with cash to do so.

 

Just make it clear it is for if they offer an out of court disposal, and that you’ll ask for a receipt - the last thing you want to do when you are accepting you previously acted dishonestly is to inadvertently make it look like you are offering a bribe in cash!

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  • dx100uk changed the title to caught using MIL's freedom pass -poss100+ uses **RESOLVED**

The Criminal conviction (since this is a Magistrates' Court criminal case) is stated, as : (The offense of) "Enter a compulsory ticket area on the Transport for London regional railway network without a valid ticket."

 

This is a Byelaw offense [under Byelaw 17(1)  ],

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/railway-byelaws.pdf

so it remains to be seen if it 'recordable' (that is showing as a criminal conviction on:

a DBS check (standard disclosure) , and if not if it will show on an enhanced (eDBS) check.

 

If you aren't sure it won't show : better to disclose it e.g. for employment , as it is a minor offence, than risk being found not to have disclosed it.

 

For the purposes of any visa or residency applications (UK or abroad, such as the USA), better to disclose it, as it is a minor offence, than risk the more major offence of being seen to provide false information. So, I wouldn't risk traveling to the USA on an ESTA for example ..... safer to apply for and get a visa than risk being found to have made a false ESTA declaration.

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