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You wonder about the scale of this.  How many people have been talked into handing over their tax records to an accountancy company who specialise in obtaining tax rebates ?

 

It might be worth putting pressure on HMRC by sending in details to local MP's, asking them whether they can look into this, as well as raising with HM Treasury and relevant select committees.

 

For these companies that run these money making schemes, i should imagine they just operate for 6 to 12 months., make a few million and are then very difficult to find.  They must know that HMRC will find out there were no real investments and they disappear before HMRC catches up with them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There may come a time for Schipoo (or CAG) to try and involve MP's and/or the Press to see if pressure can be brought to bear on HMRC .

 

But we're still trying to gather all the info we can from any CAGgers who have been scammed by FTR and any other companies involved.

 

Hopefully, if more "victims" come here, this may improve the chances of HMRC taking note of the complaints about the Scamming Companies.

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I’m worried I might not be doing enough to help myself. I have requested a SAR from Hmrc but I have just been on the gateway and can’t see anything regarding FTR or any details of the claims, unless I’m missing something?


You mentioned a SAR again FTR, should o do that aswell? 
 

Also mentioned was a judgement, does that mean you’re trying to get the money back from FTR?

 

Sorry I sound abit thick!!

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Hi Schipoo,

 

I see you posted earlier on Dixon's thread - please only post on your own thread to keep everyone's threads shorter and focused.

 

In any event, you said :--

 

 

I’m worried I might not be doing enough to help myself. I have requested a SAR from Hmrc but I have just been on the gateway and can’t see anything regarding FTR or any details of the claims, unless I’m missing something?


You mentioned a SAR again FTR, should o do that aswell? 
 

Also mentioned was a judgement, does that mean you’re trying to get the money back from FTR?

 

Sorry I sound abit thick!!

 

Personally, I see no point in sending an SAR to FTR as they will not reply. Nor do I think Dixon will get anywhere despite the CCJ awarded to them against FTR.

 

If the SAR has gone off to HMRC, wait for their reply.

 

And do your best to get other victims to sign up here and post their own story.

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Update

 

i have received my SAR but it only has the correspondence attached that hmrc have already sent me, notes from the telephone conversation I had with my case worker and a note between her and a colleague saying that they wouldn’t impose a penalty. Please see below…

 

“I refer to your recent SAR request and attach our response together with all relevant documents. Please note that certain details have been removed from some of the documents for security purposes.

 

Sandra Patrick | ISBC C&A Agent Compliance Team |Indv and Small Business Compliance | HM Revenue and Customs| BX9 1LE | | Tel 03000 523401  | [email protected]

 

Please note that email is not a secure medium and if you choose to transmit commercially sensitive information regarding your company or its business practices via email to HMRC you do so at your own risk.  

 

In the above case opening letters were issued 23 February 2021 for 2017/18-2019/20. A reply was received from the customer (tel call followed by email documents) and we are now ready to restart.

 

This case is similar to one that you have recently looked at for me in that the customer was naïve/trusted her agent and it is doubtful whether careless behaviour would be supported if the case went to Tribunal. I believe we should classify this as MDTRC and not charge a penalty.

 

Please can you confirm your agreement to both FRB and no penalty

 

Email from Tech Team 15/06/2021

Subject: EIS CASE -

I agree that this case should be treated as MDTRC for the reason stated. There is no evidence of deliberate behaviour, and I doubt if she will be so trusting again. Therefore it seems highly unlikely that she is going to repeat her mistake.

Internal Notes 12/07/2021

 

Technical advice sought re the particular circumstances of this case. An SA record was set up for expenses over £2,500. The return came in without these expenses so the SA record is automatically closed.

Per technical advice, behaviour agreed as MDTRC. The customer placed trust in her agent

 

Please note that non-personal information relating to HMRC’s internal processes and guidance have been redacted or removed. Names of HMRC officers not directly involved in the compliance check have also been removed.

 

MDTRC - mistake despite taking reasonable care

 

I’ve also had a letter with the results of the review which I believe is the same response Dixon and Alvinsmalvin have had where they state although they empathise the responsibility lies with me to repay as I gave Fast Tax Rebates Ltd my information. 
 

 

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Thanks for the update

 

FRB = future revenue benefit

 

Can you upload the letter you refer to in the last para of your last post but hide all identifiers  - see out upload guide.

 

I may suggest you send them the same letter I suggested in the post here, but you should alter it slightly to make it your own - https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/435744-hmrc-asking-me-to-repay-fast-tax-rebates-ltd-scam-rebate/?do=findComment&comment=5122682

 

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